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> If this is what happened, then they succeeded. Probably so > It’s all corporate shills trying to argue in bad faith that they are allowed to call something
by gpm 6y ago
> If this is what happened, then they succeeded.
Probably so
> It’s all corporate shills trying to argue in bad faith that they are allowed to call something “open source”.
I've seen basically 0 evidence of this. As far as I've seen it's primarily people like me arguing that you can't lambast people for using words to mean what they mean (even if the specific combination of words has a now common second meaning), and people who naively use the term without understanding that there's a hoard of rabid programmers who insist that the phrase "open source" has been imbued with special meaning and using it otherwise is to summon the devil.
No corporate shill who has an understanding of the situation would be dumb enough to use the term and get into that fight.
- teddyh 6y ago> people who naively use the term without understanding > No corporate shill who has an understanding of the situation would be dumb enough to use the term and get into that fight. These are not people who made an innocent mistake. The product owner of Defold is commenting in this very thread (without any disclaimers, I might add). They want people to believe that it is really OSI “open source”, when in fact it isn’t.
- gpm 6y agoI tend to believe that the product owner at Defold was genuinely unaware that there is this movement to redefine "open source" to mean something other than its plain meaning. After all, all "OSI open source" software is also "Plain Meaning open source", and it's the sort of pedantry that many people really don't give a fuck about. It certainly didn't help them to use the term open source here, instead of everyone discussing the game engine they're releasing completely for free to the public with no strings attached and source code attached they're discussing the meaning of the term open source and accusing them of fraud.
- vertex-four 6y agoIt is not released to the public with no strings attached, that's the entire point here. There's very specific strings attached around some use of this work.
- gpm 6y agoI was careful with my phrasing. The engine was released for free with no strings attached - you're free to implement whatever you like using the engine. The source code was released, with very minor strings attached.
- vertex-four 6y agoEven ignoring the source then: you can't disassemble the compiled engine, modify it and use your modification commercially, afaict. That's a string.
- gpm 6y agoRofl, ok dude you're technically right.