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Good points in the article but I have to mention a scrum master isn’t supposed to be telling people what to do, but rather coach on the scrum process.

BiteCode_dev 6y ago
And you are not suppose to have the entire rugby team in the scrum, only people who's work intersect. If currently the designer is not working on the same project than the dev, they should not be in the same scrum. Keep it short, to the point. Scrum is not a meeting, it's an interactive tiny bite of field report. Make it anything bigger than that, and you are not doing agile anymore.
- richliss 6y ago
  The Daily Scrum is frequently misunderstood - it's actually to replan to remaining work required to achieve the sprint goal not a status update or field report. It might well mean that you need to bring in the Product Owner to tell them the news so that together you discuss what is delivered to meet the definition of the sprint goal can be adjusted within acceptable boundaries. If you're wondering why you should accept this definition it's because I recently attended the Scrum Patterns course run by Jim Coplien (the guy who codified the definition of the Daily Scrum and is the co-author of "A Scrum Book" with Jeff Sutherland) and heard it directly from him.
  - BiteCode_dev 6y ago
    Field reports are meant to replan the remaining work. That's the whole purpose of field reports. But I understand what you mean: too many people use it to track activity, not as input for the agile loop.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> but I have to mention a scrum master isn’t supposed to be... This is a major problem with Scrum. There's always someone telling you you're doing it wrong. If nobody's able to implement your big idea properly, maybe the problem is with the idea or how you're explaining it, not the people trying to do it.
- a_imho 6y ago
  There's always someone telling you you're doing it wrong. Of course there are, and they are probably paid handsomely for their insight. How is a process that wants to implement individuals and interactions over processes and tools not a parody?
taneq 6y ago
I dunno if you've ever played team sports but roughly 50% of the coach's job is figuring out what you could be doing better, and the other 50% is telling you what to do and how to do it.
- quickthrower2 6y ago
  My point is that it’s the scrum process they coach on, not the content of tasks themselves.
thrower123 6y ago
If a process is so hard to implement correctly that no one is able to do it effectively, then maybe the process should be tailored to the realities of real people.

BiteCode_dev 6y ago

And you are not suppose to have the entire rugby team in the scrum, only people who's work intersect. If currently the designer is not working on the same project than the dev, they should not be in the same scrum. Keep it short, to the point. Scrum is not a meeting, it's an interactive tiny bite of field report. Make it anything bigger than that, and you are not doing agile anymore.

richliss 6y ago
The Daily Scrum is frequently misunderstood - it's actually to replan to remaining work required to achieve the sprint goal not a status update or field report. It might well mean that you need to bring in the Product Owner to tell them the news so that together you discuss what is delivered to meet the definition of the sprint goal can be adjusted within acceptable boundaries. If you're wondering why you should accept this definition it's because I recently attended the Scrum Patterns course run by Jim Coplien (the guy who codified the definition of the Daily Scrum and is the co-author of "A Scrum Book" with Jeff Sutherland) and heard it directly from him.
- BiteCode_dev 6y ago
  Field reports are meant to replan the remaining work. That's the whole purpose of field reports. But I understand what you mean: too many people use it to track activity, not as input for the agile loop.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> but I have to mention a scrum master isn’t supposed to be... This is a major problem with Scrum. There's always someone telling you you're doing it wrong. If nobody's able to implement your big idea properly, maybe the problem is with the idea or how you're explaining it, not the people trying to do it.

a_imho 6y ago
There's always someone telling you you're doing it wrong. Of course there are, and they are probably paid handsomely for their insight. How is a process that wants to implement individuals and interactions over processes and tools not a parody?

taneq 6y ago

I dunno if you've ever played team sports but roughly 50% of the coach's job is figuring out what you could be doing better, and the other 50% is telling you what to do and how to do it.

quickthrower2 6y ago
My point is that it’s the scrum process they coach on, not the content of tasks themselves.

thrower123 6y ago

If a process is so hard to implement correctly that no one is able to do it effectively, then maybe the process should be tailored to the realities of real people.