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Great examples (Reagan in politics as "success" is iffy though.)

by cheez 16y ago

count 16y ago
He was elected President of the United States - I'd say that should count as successful in anybody's book. The metric isn't 'effective' :)
viggity 16y ago
yeah, because causing the collapse of the USSR is a trivial accomplishment?
- stray 16y ago
  I'm pretty sure decades of mismanagement, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and a broken oil pipeline caused the collapse of the USSR. Ronny Ray Gun just happened to be in office at the time. But becoming president of the US is huge! Only a few dozen people have ever managed to do so :-)
- martythemaniak 16y ago
  Yeah, It wasn't the unsustainable economic, political, social and environmental system that was Soviet totalitarianism. It wasn't the thousands of political dissidents in Easten Europe who were active, organizing and being persecuted before Reagan was even elected. No, it was all because your Actor-President gave a nice speech and ran a deficit.
  - nir 16y ago
    Hello Reddit! :) (If I was American I'd probably vote for Democrats most of the time, but it's funny how users seem to know exactly what did or didn't cause the fall of the Eastern Bloc)
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- Florin_Andrei 16y ago
  Yeah, he also caused the return of the Halley comet. I mean, he was in office when it happened, right? He must have caused it.
  - Locke1689 16y ago
    Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
timwiseman 16y ago
Reagan was elected as a two term president and remains one of the more popular presidents in recent history. Reasonable people may respectfully disagree about whether or not he was a good president and whether or not he took the country in the right direction, but I think anyone saying he was not a successful person is using a very different definition of "success" than the common meaning.
run4yourlives 16y ago
I'd count achieving something less than 50 people in the world have achieved as a success regardless of politics.
- cheez 16y ago
  So, I wrote a commercial compiler for a language that probably less than 50 people in my country have also written. Oh, I see what you mean.
- VenkatSR 16y ago
  lol...51st president of the us is going to be a failure
cheez 16y ago
I was referring to being a political leader as something positive, being iffy. Nothing against the man specifically.

Great examples (Reagan in politics as "success" is iffy though.)

by cheez 16y ago

Great examples (Reagan in politics as "success" is iffy though.)

count 16y ago

He was elected President of the United States - I'd say that should count as successful in anybody's book. The metric isn't 'effective' :)

viggity 16y ago

yeah, because causing the collapse of the USSR is a trivial accomplishment?

stray 16y ago
I'm pretty sure decades of mismanagement, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and a broken oil pipeline caused the collapse of the USSR. Ronny Ray Gun just happened to be in office at the time. But becoming president of the US is huge! Only a few dozen people have ever managed to do so :-)
martythemaniak 16y ago
Yeah, It wasn't the unsustainable economic, political, social and environmental system that was Soviet totalitarianism. It wasn't the thousands of political dissidents in Easten Europe who were active, organizing and being persecuted before Reagan was even elected. No, it was all because your Actor-President gave a nice speech and ran a deficit.
- nir 16y ago
  Hello Reddit! :) (If I was American I'd probably vote for Democrats most of the time, but it's funny how users seem to know exactly what did or didn't cause the fall of the Eastern Bloc)
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Florin_Andrei 16y ago
Yeah, he also caused the return of the Halley comet. I mean, he was in office when it happened, right? He must have caused it.
- Locke1689 16y ago
  Post hoc, ergo propter hoc

timwiseman 16y ago

Reagan was elected as a two term president and remains one of the more popular presidents in recent history. Reasonable people may respectfully disagree about whether or not he was a good president and whether or not he took the country in the right direction, but I think anyone saying he was not a successful person is using a very different definition of "success" than the common meaning.

run4yourlives 16y ago

I'd count achieving something less than 50 people in the world have achieved as a success regardless of politics.

cheez 16y ago
So, I wrote a commercial compiler for a language that probably less than 50 people in my country have also written. Oh, I see what you mean.
VenkatSR 16y ago
lol...51st president of the us is going to be a failure

cheez 16y ago

I was referring to being a political leader as something positive, being iffy. Nothing against the man specifically.