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>Yes, we can write letters and stuff, but that doesn't really allow us to hold them accountable Public protests/rallies/marches do bring about change in gover

by ksk 6y ago

>Yes, we can write letters and stuff, but that doesn't really allow us to hold them accountable Public protests/rallies/marches do bring about change in government/government policies. Many politicians do care about their public image, and are susceptible to manipulation based on public pressure. >Compare that with private sector. Even for entities like Google, we've got huge latitude to vote with our feet. We can use DuckDuckGo, etc. Our choices as consumers provides a comparatively enormous bandwidth. Okay, so agreeing with you for the sake of argument - they provide a bandwidth, in theory, but what is the pointif nobody actually uses it? It is "effectively" zero accountability. No mass exodus from Google/Apple/Microsoft/Facebook/Twitter/Whatsapp/TikTok/insert bad company/...

scarface74 6y ago
So now we need the government to intervene for people's own good because people willingly give their money to Big Tech?
- ksk 6y ago
  The government is a made-up construct we created to serve us. What the government should or shouldn't do is up to us.
CWuestefeld 6y ago
In the political arena, the status quo is that each voter must choose one of: A) I must vote for the Democrat candidate because the Republicans are evil and they'll subjugate women and minorities. B) I must vote for the Republicans because the Democrats are evil and they'll turn us into a bunch of commies. There is no room in today's political debate for even mention of finer points of free speech philosophy, when all we can do is scare people into voting for the lesser evil. Many politicians do care about their public image, and are susceptible to manipulation based on public pressure. And this is no less true in the private sector.
- ksk 6y ago
  >And this is no less true in the private sector. Well, of course there are nuances to anything, but CEOs are not elected by the public. They don't have "opponent" CEOs trying to milk their scandals in public ads for getting a job. Its different. Anyway, this conversation has totally gone off topic ! We'll just have to agree to disagree on some things, although I suspect we have more points that we agree on than not.

by ksk 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

So now we need the government to intervene for people's own good because people willingly give their money to Big Tech?

ksk 6y ago
The government is a made-up construct we created to serve us. What the government should or shouldn't do is up to us.

CWuestefeld 6y ago

In the political arena, the status quo is that each voter must choose one of: A) I must vote for the Democrat candidate because the Republicans are evil and they'll subjugate women and minorities. B) I must vote for the Republicans because the Democrats are evil and they'll turn us into a bunch of commies. There is no room in today's political debate for even mention of finer points of free speech philosophy, when all we can do is scare people into voting for the lesser evil. Many politicians do care about their public image, and are susceptible to manipulation based on public pressure. And this is no less true in the private sector.

ksk 6y ago
>And this is no less true in the private sector. Well, of course there are nuances to anything, but CEOs are not elected by the public. They don't have "opponent" CEOs trying to milk their scandals in public ads for getting a job. Its different. Anyway, this conversation has totally gone off topic ! We'll just have to agree to disagree on some things, although I suspect we have more points that we agree on than not.