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Something I noticed when I use "Read Later" style applications to save pages is that I will, most of the time, forget about how I arrived at a certain page. Thi

Something I noticed when I use "Read Later" style applications to save pages is that I will, most of the time, forget about how I arrived at a certain page. This is important to me because it gives me the context to decide a perspective on the page. If I was able to save pages while also knowing where I found them and maybe make a comment about why I found it interesting, then I would be able to organize my knowledge in a way that mirrors my train of thought. Are there any tools capable of doing this?

karlicoss 6y ago
I'm working on a tool which can do exactly this (and it's only one of the features!): https://github.com/karlicoss/promnesia#readme https://github.com/karlicoss/promnesia#readme Here's a link demonstrating the usecase you want (40 seconds video): https://karlicoss.github.io/promnesia-demos/how_did_i_get_here.webm https://karlicoss.github.io/promnesia-demos/how_did_i_get_he... I discovered Worldbrain Memex way into the development (unfortunately), but in the near future I will try to evaluate to which extent it's possible to mutually benefit, i.e. base Promnesia extension & backend on Worldbrain's, or contribute some of Promnesia's features to them (maybe even merge completely?)
- rollinDyno 6y ago
  The webm file is broken
  - karlicoss 6y ago
    sigh.. thanks, it works in Firefox, but apparently not in Chrome. I added a link to mp4 version. upd: in case it would save someone else some pain in the future -- direct webm links don't work on raw.githubusercontent.com, but do work if you publish your repo as github pages -- then it ends up hosted on a proper CDN.
- yewenjie 6y ago
  Big shoutout to karlicoss for doing amazing things in the Personal Knowledge Management space. Also, it would be great to see a Memex-to-Org tool from you.
  - karlicoss 6y ago
    Thanks! What do you mean by memex-to-org?
kirubakaran 6y ago
https://histre.com/ https://histre.com/ has tree-style web history, taking notes on those web pages, and more. Disclaimer: I'm the founder. It automatically creates a knowledge base for you. The paths you took to arrive at a piece of information is just one part of the puzzle that it puts together for you. The main idea is that we throw away a lot of the signal we generate while doing things online and this can be put to good use for ourselves. Some related features that Histre has: - Sharing collections of notes with your teams - Saving highlights - Hacker News integration. The stories you upvote are saved in a notebook, which can be shared with your friends, or even made public. I'm focusing on search. Most knowledge base apps have terrible search imho.
- ramraj07 6y ago
  How are you planning to attack mobile use? More than half my browsing happens on mobile now!
  - Groxx 6y ago
    Not sure if their plugin works for it or not, but: Firefox has had extensions on Android for years. Should work fine.
- unqueued 6y ago
  Hmm, I thought I was the only one who thought like that. I've just been exporting entire browser trees from Tree Style Tabs (with hierarchy) at once and attaching them to a page in my Zettelkasten or another part of my knowledge base. It is great to have the entire context of my browsing session to go back to.
brlewis 6y ago
> then I would be able to organize my knowledge in a way that mirrors my train of thought I made HowTruthful for organizing trains of thought. If that's the only way you want to bookmark, you could use it. It's just that every time you save a page, you have to associate with a statement that the page is a source for. Like Memex, the free version uses localStorage. You don't actually need to sign in to start using the Cite bookmarklet. https://en.howtruthful.com/i/ https://en.howtruthful.com/i/
tsp 6y ago
Using Pinboard [0] I currently solve this by using tags like "via-twitter", "via-hackernews", or even people like "via-john". I also occasionally add a note to my pin (bookmark) to remind me why I bookmarked it. [0] https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/

karlicoss 6y ago

I'm working on a tool which can do exactly this (and it's only one of the features!): https://github.com/karlicoss/promnesia#readme https://github.com/karlicoss/promnesia#readme Here's a link demonstrating the usecase you want (40 seconds video): https://karlicoss.github.io/promnesia-demos/how_did_i_get_here.webm https://karlicoss.github.io/promnesia-demos/how_did_i_get_he... I discovered Worldbrain Memex way into the development (unfortunately), but in the near future I will try to evaluate to which extent it's possible to mutually benefit, i.e. base Promnesia extension & backend on Worldbrain's, or contribute some of Promnesia's features to them (maybe even merge completely?)

rollinDyno 6y ago
The webm file is broken
- karlicoss 6y ago
  sigh.. thanks, it works in Firefox, but apparently not in Chrome. I added a link to mp4 version. upd: in case it would save someone else some pain in the future -- direct webm links don't work on raw.githubusercontent.com, but do work if you publish your repo as github pages -- then it ends up hosted on a proper CDN.
yewenjie 6y ago
Big shoutout to karlicoss for doing amazing things in the Personal Knowledge Management space. Also, it would be great to see a Memex-to-Org tool from you.
- karlicoss 6y ago
  Thanks! What do you mean by memex-to-org?

kirubakaran 6y ago

https://histre.com/ https://histre.com/ has tree-style web history, taking notes on those web pages, and more. Disclaimer: I'm the founder. It automatically creates a knowledge base for you. The paths you took to arrive at a piece of information is just one part of the puzzle that it puts together for you. The main idea is that we throw away a lot of the signal we generate while doing things online and this can be put to good use for ourselves. Some related features that Histre has: - Sharing collections of notes with your teams - Saving highlights - Hacker News integration. The stories you upvote are saved in a notebook, which can be shared with your friends, or even made public. I'm focusing on search. Most knowledge base apps have terrible search imho.

ramraj07 6y ago
How are you planning to attack mobile use? More than half my browsing happens on mobile now!
- Groxx 6y ago
  Not sure if their plugin works for it or not, but: Firefox has had extensions on Android for years. Should work fine.
unqueued 6y ago
Hmm, I thought I was the only one who thought like that. I've just been exporting entire browser trees from Tree Style Tabs (with hierarchy) at once and attaching them to a page in my Zettelkasten or another part of my knowledge base. It is great to have the entire context of my browsing session to go back to.

brlewis 6y ago

> then I would be able to organize my knowledge in a way that mirrors my train of thought I made HowTruthful for organizing trains of thought. If that's the only way you want to bookmark, you could use it. It's just that every time you save a page, you have to associate with a statement that the page is a source for. Like Memex, the free version uses localStorage. You don't actually need to sign in to start using the Cite bookmarklet. https://en.howtruthful.com/i/ https://en.howtruthful.com/i/

tsp 6y ago

Using Pinboard [0] I currently solve this by using tags like "via-twitter", "via-hackernews", or even people like "via-john". I also occasionally add a note to my pin (bookmark) to remind me why I bookmarked it. [0] https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/