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I plan do do this for many more counties. I'm sure it isn't a coincidence how difficult many are to scrape. This data often feels purposefully obfuscated. It on

I plan do do this for many more counties. I'm sure it isn't a coincidence how difficult many are to scrape. This data often feels purposefully obfuscated. It only seems right to me that everyone should see local data aggregated like this. If police intent do use data to track the population, we should be able to track them as well.

Buttons840 6y ago
I've wondered about creating a local, software based, "town watch" of sorts. Imagine many houses in the neighborhood running open source software and collating data about movements within the neighborhood. This could bring surveillance powers to the people, and it seems inevitable that this will eventually happen, but I wonder if it will be made illegal somehow. Unfortunately, it seems more likely that people would use such data for stalking their crush rather than monitoring police or other worthy uses.
x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
It is obfuscated. Right-wingers and other cop supporters have never liked the extent to which police abuse is the norm to ever be brought to light. Chicago PD is even looking to destroy misconduct records so that an officer with a history of misconduct can't have it used against him. https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/01/16/chicago-police-union-fop-police-misconduct-records/ https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/01/16/chicago-police-union...
dkn775 6y ago
Before you expand to more counties, please address the critiques here. Also note that these data are not homogeneous across jurisdictions. I like what you’re doing, but you need to be very careful about this analysis, or else it will just come off as uninformed by the people who work in this space. State public safety data is not uniformly collected. You want to ensure you have all these caveats mentioned so that when it gains traction, you won’t waste as much time dealing with people who will try to invalidate your findings.
- kristintynski 6y ago
  I'm much more interested in making this data open and complete and potentially close to live updating as possible. I agree that it will take more depth to get at true patterns in the data, and there are many important considerations for data collection, cleaning, and analysis. I hope to find some others who would like to work with me on this.
  - dkn775 6y ago
    I sent you an email.

Buttons840 6y ago

I've wondered about creating a local, software based, "town watch" of sorts. Imagine many houses in the neighborhood running open source software and collating data about movements within the neighborhood. This could bring surveillance powers to the people, and it seems inevitable that this will eventually happen, but I wonder if it will be made illegal somehow. Unfortunately, it seems more likely that people would use such data for stalking their crush rather than monitoring police or other worthy uses.

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago

It is obfuscated. Right-wingers and other cop supporters have never liked the extent to which police abuse is the norm to ever be brought to light. Chicago PD is even looking to destroy misconduct records so that an officer with a history of misconduct can't have it used against him. https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/01/16/chicago-police-union-fop-police-misconduct-records/ https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/01/16/chicago-police-union...

dkn775 6y ago

Before you expand to more counties, please address the critiques here. Also note that these data are not homogeneous across jurisdictions. I like what you’re doing, but you need to be very careful about this analysis, or else it will just come off as uninformed by the people who work in this space. State public safety data is not uniformly collected. You want to ensure you have all these caveats mentioned so that when it gains traction, you won’t waste as much time dealing with people who will try to invalidate your findings.

kristintynski 6y ago
I'm much more interested in making this data open and complete and potentially close to live updating as possible. I agree that it will take more depth to get at true patterns in the data, and there are many important considerations for data collection, cleaning, and analysis. I hope to find some others who would like to work with me on this.
- dkn775 6y ago
  I sent you an email.