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I was thinking about this. The easiest way would be to hire inspectors to go around and inspect places during business hours and close them down if they're not

by zeku 6y ago

I was thinking about this. The easiest way would be to hire inspectors to go around and inspect places during business hours and close them down if they're not in compliance. That or a federal jobs program of "safety enforcer" paid for by the fed and placed in every business of X size or whatever. The former seems more likely.

hayez1 6y ago
>The easiest way would be to hire inspectors to go around and inspect places during business hours and close them down if they're not in compliance. Literal tyranny for something that has killed far less people than the flu kills in a year. (Up to 650 000 btw.) Should we start mandating these lockdowns for the flu as well? We are living in a time of mass hysteria that has been fuelled by the media and governments.
- mcguire 6y ago
  CDC: In the US, the flu has killed 12,000-61,000 per year over the last decade. According to the worldometer page, COVID19 has killed 91,000. Since January. WHO: (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal) https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(...) Worldwide, flu causes 290,000 to 650,000 respiratory deaths. Worldometer reports 316,000 COVID19 deaths. Since January. And I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that is off on the low side. But it's still early.
  - Izkata 6y ago
    > According to the worldometer page, COVID19 has killed 91,000. Since January. Not quite. The first death in the US was Feb 29. On March 31, it was only 5151. So ~91k deaths over 2.5 months, or ~86k deaths over 1.5 months. (...I'd probably go with the first just to encompass infection time)
- zeku 6y ago
  If you're going to spout nonsense that runs counter to the government's official tally, at least cite your source.
  - hayez1 6y ago
    Are you forgetting that US hospitals are marking people who are dying of alcohol poisoning and heart disease as Covid deaths? Even when they are not tested! (https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavirus-death-count-guidelines https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavir...)
    - wwweston 6y ago
      https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/14/candace-owens/covid-19-skeptics-say-theres-overcount-doctors-fie/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/14/candace-ow... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-p... Many doctors think there's actually an undercount as they discover ways in which the disease can present differently than severe respiratory distress, or look at guidelines that may have led to incorrectly ruling out a case. Of course, be sure to save some of that skepticism for ways in which a fee-for-service medical system can bend treatment large and small when this is all over.

by zeku 6y ago

hayez1 6y ago

>The easiest way would be to hire inspectors to go around and inspect places during business hours and close them down if they're not in compliance. Literal tyranny for something that has killed far less people than the flu kills in a year. (Up to 650 000 btw.) Should we start mandating these lockdowns for the flu as well? We are living in a time of mass hysteria that has been fuelled by the media and governments.

mcguire 6y ago
CDC: In the US, the flu has killed 12,000-61,000 per year over the last decade. According to the worldometer page, COVID19 has killed 91,000. Since January. WHO: (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal) https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(...) Worldwide, flu causes 290,000 to 650,000 respiratory deaths. Worldometer reports 316,000 COVID19 deaths. Since January. And I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that is off on the low side. But it's still early.
- Izkata 6y ago
  > According to the worldometer page, COVID19 has killed 91,000. Since January. Not quite. The first death in the US was Feb 29. On March 31, it was only 5151. So ~91k deaths over 2.5 months, or ~86k deaths over 1.5 months. (...I'd probably go with the first just to encompass infection time)
zeku 6y ago
If you're going to spout nonsense that runs counter to the government's official tally, at least cite your source.
- hayez1 6y ago
  Are you forgetting that US hospitals are marking people who are dying of alcohol poisoning and heart disease as Covid deaths? Even when they are not tested! (https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavirus-death-count-guidelines https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavir...)
  - wwweston 6y ago
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/14/candace-owens/covid-19-skeptics-say-theres-overcount-doctors-fie/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/14/candace-ow... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-p... Many doctors think there's actually an undercount as they discover ways in which the disease can present differently than severe respiratory distress, or look at guidelines that may have led to incorrectly ruling out a case. Of course, be sure to save some of that skepticism for ways in which a fee-for-service medical system can bend treatment large and small when this is all over.