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The thing is I've never worn out a piece of equipment in 25 years of computer enthusiasm. I've had some DOAs and infamous equipment (say Deathstar) but never fa

by wjnc 6y ago

The thing is I've never worn out a piece of equipment in 25 years of computer enthusiasm. I've had some DOAs and infamous equipment (say Deathstar) but never failures even second hand equipment. Is that different for 24/7 max power draw or is it just YMMV (and usually will still work)?

411111111111111 6y ago
It's both. The ymmv is always big with electronics. I.e. my second last graphics card (gtx970) died within 2 yrs. But the aging effect from running 24/7 under high load is very real as well. The high temperatures of permanently running on full power just wears it down
Bayart 6y ago
Besides mechanical parts you can still see failure from weary chemical components (capacitors, easily fixed), solder joints (fix depends on the joint. BGA chips aren't easy to fix) failing due to cycles of thermal expension and retraction or water damage, and lastly electromigration (the real unfixable damage, it usually happens from overvoltage/overheat).
user5994461 6y ago
I've seen every single piece of equipment worn out over the past decades except the CPU. Hard disk and GPU are the worst in my experience. They have the shortest lifespan and they're the most impactful when they die. Hard disk die suddenly destroying all data, self explanatory. GPU die slowly, progressively having rendering error then crashing the system erratically. I've taken 3 GPU to their grave between my personal computers and my family's.
- freehunter 6y ago
  To limit my spending I have a personal policy where I don't upgrade my GPU until it dies (I don't generally play the latest AAA games on my PC) and with just one outlier since 2004 I've had a new one about every 4-5 years. I've actually never had a CPU fail but I've had several HDDs die.
- numpad0 6y ago
  Nah if your HDD is dying it’s either your task really demands it OR you’re not cooling them enough. If your GPU is dying it’s VRAM or VRM is failing under high heat. Manufacturers cut fan speed to cut fan noise until warranty claims increase substantially so they never provide sufficient cooling at stock settings. Rackmount servers don’t sound like jet engines for no reason. Things fail if you don’t do that.
JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Storage fails all the time. Cables, power supplies, UPS, monitors, keyboards, mice - I have a graveyard in a cabinet. Also motherboards who's capacitors dry up; connectors that develop faults. This is of course leaving out devices who's firmware get exploited and become poison (routers, USB devices with malware)
JoshTriplett 6y ago
I've had hard disks fail in a PVR setup (heavy load), I've had memory fail, I've had motherboards fail, I've had power supplies fail, and I've literally typed laptop keyboards to death in ~2 years. I'd be utterly unsurprised about a GPU failure. The best case scenario is "selling it because I'm buying a new one", the worst case scenario is "selling it because it's starting to flake out", and "selling it because the warranty ran out" is not much better.

by wjnc 6y ago

411111111111111 6y ago

It's both. The ymmv is always big with electronics. I.e. my second last graphics card (gtx970) died within 2 yrs. But the aging effect from running 24/7 under high load is very real as well. The high temperatures of permanently running on full power just wears it down

Bayart 6y ago

Besides mechanical parts you can still see failure from weary chemical components (capacitors, easily fixed), solder joints (fix depends on the joint. BGA chips aren't easy to fix) failing due to cycles of thermal expension and retraction or water damage, and lastly electromigration (the real unfixable damage, it usually happens from overvoltage/overheat).

user5994461 6y ago

I've seen every single piece of equipment worn out over the past decades except the CPU. Hard disk and GPU are the worst in my experience. They have the shortest lifespan and they're the most impactful when they die. Hard disk die suddenly destroying all data, self explanatory. GPU die slowly, progressively having rendering error then crashing the system erratically. I've taken 3 GPU to their grave between my personal computers and my family's.

freehunter 6y ago
To limit my spending I have a personal policy where I don't upgrade my GPU until it dies (I don't generally play the latest AAA games on my PC) and with just one outlier since 2004 I've had a new one about every 4-5 years. I've actually never had a CPU fail but I've had several HDDs die.
numpad0 6y ago
Nah if your HDD is dying it’s either your task really demands it OR you’re not cooling them enough. If your GPU is dying it’s VRAM or VRM is failing under high heat. Manufacturers cut fan speed to cut fan noise until warranty claims increase substantially so they never provide sufficient cooling at stock settings. Rackmount servers don’t sound like jet engines for no reason. Things fail if you don’t do that.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

Storage fails all the time. Cables, power supplies, UPS, monitors, keyboards, mice - I have a graveyard in a cabinet. Also motherboards who's capacitors dry up; connectors that develop faults. This is of course leaving out devices who's firmware get exploited and become poison (routers, USB devices with malware)

JoshTriplett 6y ago

I've had hard disks fail in a PVR setup (heavy load), I've had memory fail, I've had motherboards fail, I've had power supplies fail, and I've literally typed laptop keyboards to death in ~2 years. I'd be utterly unsurprised about a GPU failure. The best case scenario is "selling it because I'm buying a new one", the worst case scenario is "selling it because it's starting to flake out", and "selling it because the warranty ran out" is not much better.