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I installed Termux on my Chromebook a few years ago to try and create a local development environment per this article[0]. It seemed to work okay, but I never l

by ufmace 6y ago

I installed Termux on my Chromebook a few years ago to try and create a local development environment per this article[0]. It seemed to work okay, but I never liked how janky and unsupported the whole thing felt. I couldn't bring myself to try and build a workflow around it long-term. And here I guess that's vindicated. Whether now or in a few years, the whole concept of Termux is not long for this world. I guess these types of restrictions are essentially required to keep insecure and abusive apps off of the majority of users' devices. https://blog.lessonslearned.org/building-a-more-secure-development-chromebook/ https://blog.lessonslearned.org/building-a-more-secure-devel...

cft 6y ago
When we need to quickly diagnose and fix some sudden server issue from anywhere, Termux is indispensable. I even bought a tiny Bluetooth USB keyboard because of it.
- blacksmith_tb 6y ago
  Agreed, I had been using JuiceSSH[1] but then it seemed to no longer be supported (though I see it just got an update) so I then switched to Termux to be able to ssh from my phone (which is running Android 10, I guess I haven't run into these problems since I don't generally do much with the local filesystem). 1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.ju...
  - cft 6y ago
    I migrated from JuiceSSH to Termux because it allows you to run remote diagnostic locally, ping, traceroute, schedule crons and even vibrate your phone and display notifications to alert you. It also allows you to port forward ssh, whereas in JuiceSSH you have to pay for that.
- badRNG 6y ago
  Have you thought about giving LineageOS a spin? It has a built in terminal with sudoer rights available
otabdeveloper4 6y ago
> ...insecure and abusive apps... I.e., anything more useful than a cat picture gallery from a pre-approved list of cat picture providers? Glad I'm a luddite stuck in the 'insecure and abusive' computing ghetto!
capdeck 6y ago
> to keep insecure and abusive apps off of the majority of users' devices. I don't know, but we have a small android tablet with a bunch of games. If you ask me - Play Store is a cesspool of ad-ware ridden junk with some of the games showing you an ad after every single screen (5-10 clicks / taps). After installing more than 10 games the tablet starts showing full screen adds spontaneously at different times and in different screens. And I haven't installed any "shady" apps, just games with "4 stars" or more rating on them. Somehow that is ok, but running GNU grep in a terminal is now a crime on Android. And you can review grep's code, while these games run amok with spyware. Google is "fixing" security in all the wrong places. Which means security has nothing to do with what Google does. It is locking the android appliance to ensure uninterrupted consumption of ads. Anything else, be that development, tinkering, etc. which interferes with ad consumption must be restricted, limited and removed.
- mav3rick 6y ago
  Tomorrow if termux like app oes an execs something else and roots the device you will shill on HN against Google. They can't win here even when the decision makes perfect sense.
mav3rick 6y ago
Chrome OS has a proper shell now (runs in a VM in the background). Give it a go.

by ufmace 6y ago

cft 6y ago

When we need to quickly diagnose and fix some sudden server issue from anywhere, Termux is indispensable. I even bought a tiny Bluetooth USB keyboard because of it.

blacksmith_tb 6y ago
Agreed, I had been using JuiceSSH[1] but then it seemed to no longer be supported (though I see it just got an update) so I then switched to Termux to be able to ssh from my phone (which is running Android 10, I guess I haven't run into these problems since I don't generally do much with the local filesystem). 1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.ju...
- cft 6y ago
  I migrated from JuiceSSH to Termux because it allows you to run remote diagnostic locally, ping, traceroute, schedule crons and even vibrate your phone and display notifications to alert you. It also allows you to port forward ssh, whereas in JuiceSSH you have to pay for that.
badRNG 6y ago
Have you thought about giving LineageOS a spin? It has a built in terminal with sudoer rights available

otabdeveloper4 6y ago

> ...insecure and abusive apps... I.e., anything more useful than a cat picture gallery from a pre-approved list of cat picture providers? Glad I'm a luddite stuck in the 'insecure and abusive' computing ghetto!

capdeck 6y ago

> to keep insecure and abusive apps off of the majority of users' devices. I don't know, but we have a small android tablet with a bunch of games. If you ask me - Play Store is a cesspool of ad-ware ridden junk with some of the games showing you an ad after every single screen (5-10 clicks / taps). After installing more than 10 games the tablet starts showing full screen adds spontaneously at different times and in different screens. And I haven't installed any "shady" apps, just games with "4 stars" or more rating on them. Somehow that is ok, but running GNU grep in a terminal is now a crime on Android. And you can review grep's code, while these games run amok with spyware. Google is "fixing" security in all the wrong places. Which means security has nothing to do with what Google does. It is locking the android appliance to ensure uninterrupted consumption of ads. Anything else, be that development, tinkering, etc. which interferes with ad consumption must be restricted, limited and removed.

mav3rick 6y ago
Tomorrow if termux like app oes an execs something else and roots the device you will shill on HN against Google. They can't win here even when the decision makes perfect sense.

mav3rick 6y ago

Chrome OS has a proper shell now (runs in a VM in the background). Give it a go.