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Apple is only better because it is smaller but it does a lot of the same things and often lies about it... A pure and open Linux phone is the only way that it c

Apple is only better because it is smaller but it does a lot of the same things and often lies about it... A pure and open Linux phone is the only way that it could get better.

mattcrox 6y ago
"but it does a lot of the same things and often lies about it" Can you provide evidence of this? Not that I don't believe you (nor do I have any financial interest in Apple), but I'm not a fan of seeing baseless accusations on HN.
- coronadisaster 6y ago
  Sorry, I thought that it was well known... did a quick search and found this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/18/imessage-qualcast-security-weakness https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/18/imessage-... duck.com for more examples...
  - theshrike79 6y ago
    ”This article is more than 6 years old” At that time Google’s motto was still “Do no evil”...
    - coronadisaster 6y ago
      > At that time Google’s motto was still “Do no evil”... still 2 years after Steve Jobs died which I think had a better moral compass
  - zepto 6y ago
    That isn’t an example at all. It’s a random assertion from a 3rd party with no validation.
    - coronadisaster 6y ago
      so what is an example, according to you?
      - zepto 6y ago
        An example would be them actually being shown to be lying about something factual. Not just someone offering an opposing opinion.
      - dkersten 6y ago
        The onus is on you, the person who made the claim, to find examples that have enough evidence to be taken as factual. I don’t trust any big company and assume they’re all lying, but I trust random online assertions without evidence even less.
giancarlostoro 6y ago
Until there's a proper mainstream one I can buy from my cell provider I don't think I can make such a switch. I need very specific apps on my phone for work.
- coronadisaster 6y ago
  which app is that if you don't mind me asking?
  - giancarlostoro 6y ago
    I've worked at two different places that had very specific 2 factor apps they used. I wouldn't be able to authenticate anywhere without iOS or Android.

Apple is only better because it is smaller but it does a lot of the same things and often lies about it... A pure and open Linux phone is the only way that it could get better.

mattcrox 6y ago

"but it does a lot of the same things and often lies about it" Can you provide evidence of this? Not that I don't believe you (nor do I have any financial interest in Apple), but I'm not a fan of seeing baseless accusations on HN.

coronadisaster 6y ago
Sorry, I thought that it was well known... did a quick search and found this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/18/imessage-qualcast-security-weakness https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/18/imessage-... duck.com for more examples...
- theshrike79 6y ago
  ”This article is more than 6 years old” At that time Google’s motto was still “Do no evil”...
  - coronadisaster 6y ago
    > At that time Google’s motto was still “Do no evil”... still 2 years after Steve Jobs died which I think had a better moral compass
- zepto 6y ago
  That isn’t an example at all. It’s a random assertion from a 3rd party with no validation.
  - coronadisaster 6y ago
    so what is an example, according to you?
    - zepto 6y ago
      An example would be them actually being shown to be lying about something factual. Not just someone offering an opposing opinion.
    - dkersten 6y ago
      The onus is on you, the person who made the claim, to find examples that have enough evidence to be taken as factual. I don’t trust any big company and assume they’re all lying, but I trust random online assertions without evidence even less.

giancarlostoro 6y ago

Until there's a proper mainstream one I can buy from my cell provider I don't think I can make such a switch. I need very specific apps on my phone for work.

coronadisaster 6y ago
which app is that if you don't mind me asking?
- giancarlostoro 6y ago
  I've worked at two different places that had very specific 2 factor apps they used. I wouldn't be able to authenticate anywhere without iOS or Android.