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> that organization should be considered unfixable and just thrown away to be replaced wholesale what? > Fax is evil and should have been dead a decade ago.

> that organization should be considered unfixable and just thrown away to be replaced wholesale what? > Fax is evil and should have been dead a decade ago. why? Paper document facsimile is a useful facility basically as long as people fill or sign things out by hand or with stamps, and with Japanese even just coding people's names correctly into a computer is a task that requires both specialized skills and tools. These sweeping statements just strike me as ignorant and devoid of empathy.

wolrah 6y ago
> what? You're skipping the key part: "I say if an organization requires fax for anything in 2020, not just as an option but as the only way to do a specific thing," If they haven't bothered to provide a non-fax option for submitting data by now what would make you believe they ever will unless forced? If you don't understand how that's a problem then we don't exist in the same universe. I can't explain it to you. > Paper document facsimile is a useful facility basically as long as people fill or sign things out by hand or with stamps, and with Japanese even just coding people's names correctly into a computer is a task that requires both specialized skills and tools. That's what scanners are for. Scanning documents to store or email is perfectly fine. I'm talking about the specific act of using facsimile technology to transmit said document at low resolution in pseudo-realtime (but not really in most modern implementations) over telephone lines. There is no situation where there's not a better answer unless one party refuses to use more modern technology. > These sweeping statements just strike me as ignorant and devoid of empathy. As someone who has to support fax users, yea, I'm devoid of empathy for them. Entirely. Faxes have all kinds of problems that are a pain in the ass to prove to the user that it's just the horrible ancient tech they insist on using.

wolrah 6y ago

> what? You're skipping the key part: "I say if an organization requires fax for anything in 2020, not just as an option but as the only way to do a specific thing," If they haven't bothered to provide a non-fax option for submitting data by now what would make you believe they ever will unless forced? If you don't understand how that's a problem then we don't exist in the same universe. I can't explain it to you. > Paper document facsimile is a useful facility basically as long as people fill or sign things out by hand or with stamps, and with Japanese even just coding people's names correctly into a computer is a task that requires both specialized skills and tools. That's what scanners are for. Scanning documents to store or email is perfectly fine. I'm talking about the specific act of using facsimile technology to transmit said document at low resolution in pseudo-realtime (but not really in most modern implementations) over telephone lines. There is no situation where there's not a better answer unless one party refuses to use more modern technology. > These sweeping statements just strike me as ignorant and devoid of empathy. As someone who has to support fax users, yea, I'm devoid of empathy for them. Entirely. Faxes have all kinds of problems that are a pain in the ass to prove to the user that it's just the horrible ancient tech they insist on using.