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30 day vacations aren't the norm in most of the places. Everything else is offered in IT jobs in US plus double the average European salary.
by shankr 6y ago
30 day vacations aren't the norm in most of the places.
Everything else is offered in IT jobs in US plus double the average European salary.
- pjmlp 6y agoEverything else is lost in US with immediate job termination, no thanks. You can get those 30 pretty much everywhere, either by negotiating it, or taking advantage of the multiple holidays that we enjoy across Europe. And as I mentioned, I don't have any complains regarding salary. There is more in life than being rich.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoNobody is talking about being rich but if you look at house prices in the major European metro areas or tech hubs, they're out of reach even for devs while that's not the case in the US.
- pjmlp 6y agoYet most people get to buy houses just with one credit instead of the multiple morgages in US.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoReally? Who? A house near a big city in Germany is over a million and city apartment over half a million. How many devs can afford that even with a credit?
- pjmlp 6y agoBy having a 30 year long credit and not going over the roof with their choices. Meanwhile as described by Lehman brothers fiasco documentaries, multiple American families went totally bankrupt with their multiple mortgages over their houses.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoExcept that as a FAANGer you earn enough to own your house in full in 10-20 years and retire early, while as a dev in Europe's strongest economy you're basically a neofeudalist slave to your bank and employer way into your 60s(if anyone will still hire you then). Really nice. Just because some people in the US made bad financial choices with property investments(some Europeans also did the same) doesn't change the fact that US tech workers earn way more than Europeans, cost of living adjusted.
- aianus 6y ago> There is more in life than being rich. Yes, of course. > Everything else is lost in US with immediate job termination, no thanks. This doesn't matter when you save $60k/year from your $250k FAANG job. Job termination just means a long, fun vacation before you look for your next thing.
- shankr 6y agoAlso the idea of people get fired in IT jobs in USA at the drop of the hat is also bit of an exaggeration. Just look at how Airbnb and Uber are handling it.
- pjmlp 6y agoThe 3000 lucky ones announced today.
- shankr 6y agoMost probably bigger severance package than your yearly salary.
- pjmlp 6y agoI am willing to bet that other than a few selected ones in management positions, the majority will get pennies.
- mrep 6y ago"Affected employees will receive a severance package, which includes a minimum of 10 weeks pay and health benefits through the end of the year" [0] and their average senior software engineer is making 345k a year [1] so a minimum of 66k on average. [0]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/05/18/coronavirus-effects-uber-cuts-more-than-3-000-jobs-closes-45-offices/5213255002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/05/18/coronavirus-... [1]: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engineer/Senior-Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engine...