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Shadow banning is a fairly effective anti-troll measure. Not so much customized reality, as much as making it less obvious to the troll that their current acco
by zentiggr 6y ago
Shadow banning is a fairly effective anti-troll measure.
Not so much customized reality, as much as making it less obvious to the troll that their current account isn't effective.
- jacknews 6y agoThis reeks of 'security by obscurity' Any determined and experienced troll is going to check via another account. The result is just that comments from ordinary people are 'disappeared' when the host disagrees with them enough to ban.
- jhanschoo 6y agoThere are far more low-effort trolls than there are dedicated trolls, who are then few enough in number to be dealt with by other measures.
- zentiggr 6y agoSecurity by obscurity is about poor asset defense. Shadow banning is about raising the effort level for trolls, think of it more like virtual spike strips. Not going to stop everyone but slows most of them up enough to reduce the problem.
- cotelletta 6y agoIt also allows for plausible deniability to surgically remove certain viewpoints without anyone noticing. This is not an acceptable trade off if you value freedom of expression and have an understanding of how bad ideologues are at impartial moderation, confusing disagreement for low effort, lack of intelligence or insincerity. HN has had a problem for years that heterodox views and facts on culture war issues are censored. The enforcement mechanisms are abused to do this. The mods deny it. So either the mods are lying about their own actions, or they are not in control of their own site and sufficiently sophisticated flagging works to ban certain viewpoints. If the latter is true, then shadowbanning is not getting rid of trolls, it is entrenching an elite of them.