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I don't understand the claims re: font loading. > Vercel's impossibly fast CDN delivers new.css and the font Inter using xz/fonts, so there's virtually no bloa

I don't understand the claims re: font loading. > Vercel's impossibly fast CDN delivers new.css and the font Inter using xz/fonts, so there's virtually no bloat added to your pages. It's 300kb of font downloads, hardly light. And the xz/fonts page says: >Break your users from unethical tracking networks I'm still making a request to a 3rd party CDN with an origin header that says what page I'm looking at, so I'm not sure what privacy I'm gaining here.

toyg 6y ago
I guess the key word is “unethical”.
- exampledev 6y ago
  Hey, developer of both here. It's certainly not a light download, I understand. It's more of an effort to pull CDN requests to known unethical networks, namely Google Fonts, which are known to be used to track users between websites. I'll be more clear about this in the future, thanks for your opinions!
  - Aissen 6y ago
    I still don't see how switching from Google to a VC-backed CDN startup is better for ethical purposes.
    - jstanley 6y ago
      It's better, but it's still not as good as just using the browser default font.
      - CharlesW 6y ago
        Or just serve them yourself.
  - riquito 6y ago
    Any source about the unethical bit? Their privacy section looks good https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq#what_does_using_the_google_fonts_api_mean_for_the_privacy_of_my_users https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq#what_does_using_the_...
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wodenokoto 6y ago
They also have a lite version that uses system fonts, for whatever it is worth.
joeblau 6y ago
While I do like the style sheet that was created, the marketing spin on this page was off-putting to me as well.
henriquez 6y ago
You can always set a referrer-policy HTTP header on the origin site to prevent the CDN from getting the path (or even the domain) of the web page. They’d still see user IP address but on its own that’s not very useful.
- odensc 6y ago
  It's the `Origin` header that's the issue, not `Refer(r)er`.
riezebos 6y ago
Slightly off-topic but this made me wonder: is it possible to store the 1000 most used web fonts locally and tell your browser to use the local version instead of the Google version?
- kevinzg 6y ago
  Decentraleyes[0] does this for JavaScript files. There was a request to add fonts[1], but it hasn't been implemented. [0]: https://decentraleyes.org/ https://decentraleyes.org/ [1]: https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraleyes/issues/34 https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraleyes/issues/34
  - riezebos 6y ago
    Cool, thanks! Definitely going to install that extension. It seems they moved to Gitlab, I subscribed to the new issue[0]. [0]: https://git.synz.io/Synzvato/decentraleyes/-/issues/34 https://git.synz.io/Synzvato/decentraleyes/-/issues/34

toyg 6y ago

I guess the key word is “unethical”.

exampledev 6y ago
Hey, developer of both here. It's certainly not a light download, I understand. It's more of an effort to pull CDN requests to known unethical networks, namely Google Fonts, which are known to be used to track users between websites. I'll be more clear about this in the future, thanks for your opinions!
- Aissen 6y ago
  I still don't see how switching from Google to a VC-backed CDN startup is better for ethical purposes.
  - jstanley 6y ago
    It's better, but it's still not as good as just using the browser default font.
    - CharlesW 6y ago
      Or just serve them yourself.
- riquito 6y ago
  Any source about the unethical bit? Their privacy section looks good https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq#what_does_using_the_google_fonts_api_mean_for_the_privacy_of_my_users https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq#what_does_using_the_...
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wodenokoto 6y ago

They also have a lite version that uses system fonts, for whatever it is worth.

joeblau 6y ago

While I do like the style sheet that was created, the marketing spin on this page was off-putting to me as well.

henriquez 6y ago

You can always set a referrer-policy HTTP header on the origin site to prevent the CDN from getting the path (or even the domain) of the web page. They’d still see user IP address but on its own that’s not very useful.

odensc 6y ago
It's the `Origin` header that's the issue, not `Refer(r)er`.

riezebos 6y ago

Slightly off-topic but this made me wonder: is it possible to store the 1000 most used web fonts locally and tell your browser to use the local version instead of the Google version?

kevinzg 6y ago
Decentraleyes[0] does this for JavaScript files. There was a request to add fonts[1], but it hasn't been implemented. [0]: https://decentraleyes.org/ https://decentraleyes.org/ [1]: https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraleyes/issues/34 https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraleyes/issues/34
- riezebos 6y ago
  Cool, thanks! Definitely going to install that extension. It seems they moved to Gitlab, I subscribed to the new issue[0]. [0]: https://git.synz.io/Synzvato/decentraleyes/-/issues/34 https://git.synz.io/Synzvato/decentraleyes/-/issues/34