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This is a very hard situation for the affected, but I cannot look at it any other way than a positive change. My own opinion is that modern universities are a m

This is a very hard situation for the affected, but I cannot look at it any other way than a positive change. My own opinion is that modern universities are a mix of ponzi scheme with stockholm syndrom. It's a bubble that should have burst a long time ago. From institutions of education and widening of perspecitve they morphed into thought-culling money making machines. I think we underestiumate just how many things changed for the better thanks to the virus.

saiya-jin 6y ago
You can't bag all higher education just because you don't like some narrow part of it (ie IT-related). Any white collar job with legal responsibility, or doctors have some good reasons to be as they are (maybe not in ideal state, but that's another topic). Would you trust an architect who aced some online course with a building that you will live in? Or doctor to perform your surgery?
drunkpotato 6y ago
> From institutions of education and widening of perspecitve (sic) they morphed into thought-culling money making machines. How did you come to that conclusion? I would agree on the money-making machine part, but I had rather a different and mostly positive college experience on the education side, both in undergrad and graduate school.
- gerland 6y ago
  I cannot really asses the situation in US, but observing things like the Evergreen situation makes me believe that it's similar to what happened in Europe (at least to what I've seen). Most probles stem from standarization and degradation of dorm experience. It was pretty obvious when I was doing my Masters that in the lower years if you do not run with the crowd, then you will be ostracized. It was always like that in some degree, but I could not imagine few years before that there would be people protesting against leting in some conservative speakers on the campus. I was traveling a bit later and it seems that this is prevalent in most modern western universiteis. If you are not part of the rainbow crowd, then you have to be very careful where and to whom you voice your opinions. Maybe some people enjoy the Stasi experience, but I actually prefered the camraderie feeling of old - I will listen to you no matter what your opinions are.
  - gerland 6y ago
    Btw - It's nice to see how you made sure to pinpoint my spelling mistake. It pretty much proves that you are one of "those" people. It's not enough for you to just answer a comment on the internet, you try to belittle everyone else to feel better about yourself. Did you remember to downvote me? Of course you did :) You downvote everything you disagree with. It's outrageous that has has a different opinion than you might want to speak, right? I just hope that one day it will blow up in those smug feces (you might use sic! here).
  - JamesBarney 6y ago
    If someone asked what are the two most liberal pc colleges in the u.s. I'd probably mention Evergreen and Oberlin. Despite the general trend to move in this direction, these colleges are still pretty large outliers.
    - blaser-waffle 6y ago
      No mention of UC Santa Cruz? Goooooooo Sluuuuuuuuuggggggssssssss
draw_down 6y ago
Well, things can always get worse!

saiya-jin 6y ago

You can't bag all higher education just because you don't like some narrow part of it (ie IT-related). Any white collar job with legal responsibility, or doctors have some good reasons to be as they are (maybe not in ideal state, but that's another topic). Would you trust an architect who aced some online course with a building that you will live in? Or doctor to perform your surgery?

drunkpotato 6y ago

> From institutions of education and widening of perspecitve (sic) they morphed into thought-culling money making machines. How did you come to that conclusion? I would agree on the money-making machine part, but I had rather a different and mostly positive college experience on the education side, both in undergrad and graduate school.

gerland 6y ago
I cannot really asses the situation in US, but observing things like the Evergreen situation makes me believe that it's similar to what happened in Europe (at least to what I've seen). Most probles stem from standarization and degradation of dorm experience. It was pretty obvious when I was doing my Masters that in the lower years if you do not run with the crowd, then you will be ostracized. It was always like that in some degree, but I could not imagine few years before that there would be people protesting against leting in some conservative speakers on the campus. I was traveling a bit later and it seems that this is prevalent in most modern western universiteis. If you are not part of the rainbow crowd, then you have to be very careful where and to whom you voice your opinions. Maybe some people enjoy the Stasi experience, but I actually prefered the camraderie feeling of old - I will listen to you no matter what your opinions are.
- gerland 6y ago
  Btw - It's nice to see how you made sure to pinpoint my spelling mistake. It pretty much proves that you are one of "those" people. It's not enough for you to just answer a comment on the internet, you try to belittle everyone else to feel better about yourself. Did you remember to downvote me? Of course you did :) You downvote everything you disagree with. It's outrageous that has has a different opinion than you might want to speak, right? I just hope that one day it will blow up in those smug feces (you might use sic! here).
- JamesBarney 6y ago
  If someone asked what are the two most liberal pc colleges in the u.s. I'd probably mention Evergreen and Oberlin. Despite the general trend to move in this direction, these colleges are still pretty large outliers.
  - blaser-waffle 6y ago
    No mention of UC Santa Cruz? Goooooooo Sluuuuuuuuuggggggssssssss

draw_down 6y ago

Well, things can always get worse!