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You can try Pocket Casts [1] who are my favorite and only Of course that's assuming that they don't get the same play store treatment from GOOG It's a little
by jimmySixDOF 6y ago
You can try Pocket Casts [1] who are my favorite and only
Of course that's assuming that they don't get the same play store treatment from GOOG
It's a little too ironic that Goggle, who has countless times made the argument that they aren't responsible/liable for what their users do on a service ("honestly senator its just a platform we provide"), and then here they are the ones calling for some downstream accountability. Not that I agree at all with the logic- you may as well say that a bank is responsible(liable) for the use of any money they lend out ;} -- but its the hypocrisy that stinks to high heaven here!
[1] https://www.pocketcasts.com/ https://www.pocketcasts.com/
- TomMarius 6y agoMaybe this is the effect of continuously putting liability on them? You should account the timeline into your thinking, it's not happening at the same time.
- nyolfen 6y agoit's the effect of trying to avoid regulation by self-regulating. after trump got elected, one of the big media narratives was that it happened because of misinformation ("fake news"); the response has been censorship by platform owners to avoid the charge in the future and any potential federal action
- TomMarius 6y agoWhy do you think so? How do you know it's not the response to multiple attempts to put liability for content on platform owners like Google and Facebook? How do you know they did not respond strongly because most governments have declared state of crisis, which means more severe punishment, and punishment of things that would be OK otherwise (and of course nobody knows what that actually means, let alone all around the world)?
- nyolfen 6y agothere can be more than one reason, but the censorship began in earnest after trump's election and before covid.[1] this isn't even a controversial position and i'm nowhere near the only person to have remarked upon it. [1] https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/636030043/youtube-apple-and-facebook-ban-infowars-which-decries-mega-purge https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/636030043/youtube-apple-and-f...
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoIt didn't start after Trump's election. It started with the "cancel culture" thing a couple of years before that and pressure on companies to participate in the war on crimethink. I tend to think that it contributed to Trump's election, because it has the effect of creating massive polarization. You can't segregate sites by viewpoint and thought filter everything in favor of one side or the other and expect it not to devolve into extremist conflict. But the people doing this didn't want to admit that they caused the problem to begin with, so instead they double down.
- gamblor956 6y agoThe modern polarization of the media began in the 1990s with Newt Gingrich...with help from his patron Rupert Murdoch, an ultra-conservative Australian who owned television stations, tabloids, and newspapers in the US, Australia, and the UK. Before them, politics was still very cutthroat but not polarized along party lines.
- intended 6y agoThis- among side the cable news cycle effect were the genesis of today’s virus. Have to say — Murdoch has been remarkably influential as a massive negative impact on humanity
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y agoI could say the same about disney, their ownership of certain networks and their ability to influence politica to single handledly redefine trademark laws on behalf of the US government Talk about impact. Truth is in the eye of the beholder
- veeti 6y agoDon't worry, Pocket Casts is a much bigger developer. They can generate the necessary online outrage to get relisted. It's the small guys that get shafted.
- dmix 6y agoAnd this is how we end up with monopolies. "Well intentioned" policies designed for giant companies only.
- 101404 6y agoOr you can just not drop an app that just became the victim of corporate censorship.
- codeddesign 6y agoWhy is this topic not coming up more often? There is heavy censorship in play here at the same levels as China and Russia.
- hiram112 6y agoThis censorship has been criticized quite a bit for the last several years. You probably missed our complaints, though, as on sites like HN, Reddit, etc. we were all downvoted into oblivion. Conservatives who've had this happen to them were just told to suck it up cause the tech companies are muh private corporations, and there are consequences to free speech... or something like that.
- bakedbeanz 6y agohttps://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
- thepangolino 6y agoSame argument, pushed a little further: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w33mawVRXdE/VL6Wd6Bc3rI/AAAAAAAABE4/mHv-bDu4N6E/s1600/freespeech.png https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w33mawVRXdE/VL6Wd6Bc3rI/AAAAAAAAB...
- jagannathtech 6y agoperfect... govt unable to enforce rule of law over violence is just an indirect way of disincentivising free speech.
- lawtalkinghuman 6y agoThere is literally no legally significant difference between refusing to host a social media account on your website and murdering people.
- StavrosK 6y agoThat's not a solution. Instead, we should switch to alternative stores like F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.danoeh.antennapod/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.danoeh.antennapod/ F-Droid only lists FOSS software, but Google sorely needs competition. Unfortunately, any alternative store is unlikely to succeed since the users only have incentive to use it when Google misbehaves, so all Google has to do is misbehave rarely enough to kill the alternatives off.
- whatshisface 6y agoF-Droid is great, it has been years since I've had to use the app store.