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They can't be that good if you happen to know this and be writing about it on the internet.

by krona 6y ago

ashtonkem 6y ago
Or this is the least of their exploits, and releasing this info is a psyops thing.
- bergstromm466 6y ago
  I love how this is downvoted, even though it's lilely a commonly used strategy in many Western power's playbook. Did nobody read Snowden's book?
ArnoVW 6y ago
In general, in the spyworld you do not talk about your tricks. But if you've already been found out, and your tricks no longer work, there is still political advantage to be had (damage your adversary, obtain credit from partners, obtain funding, easier recrutement). https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/dutch-intelligence-hacked-video-cameras-in-office-of-russians-who-hacked-dnc/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/dutch...
- coldtea 6y ago
  Or if you just want to claim it to damage your adversary, whether they have the unit you supposedly hacked and it does what you say it does, or not...
ciarannolan 6y ago
Covert access for over two years to every part of the GRU's election meddling apparatus is very impressive, actually. Once you're caught, too, there's sometimes value in sort of showing it off and embarrassing your adversary.
jeroenhd 6y ago
From what I've read, things started going wrong when an (ex?) official of the US released information the Dutch shared with their American allies[1]. Details on when or why access to the Russian networks was lost aren't readily available (secret service and all that) but I do remember reading about the intelligence agencies being not particularly pleased with the way the information was publicly released by their allies. It makes sense that someone gloating about how there's an ally of theirs in your network will make you take a second look at the traffic flowing through your network if you're waging cyber warfare. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-details-emerge-about-2014-russian-hack-of-the-state-department-it-was-hand-to-hand-combat/2017/04/03/d89168e0-124c-11e7-833c-503e1f6394c9_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-d...

They can't be that good if you happen to know this and be writing about it on the internet.

by krona 6y ago

They can't be that good if you happen to know this and be writing about it on the internet.

ashtonkem 6y ago

Or this is the least of their exploits, and releasing this info is a psyops thing.

bergstromm466 6y ago
I love how this is downvoted, even though it's lilely a commonly used strategy in many Western power's playbook. Did nobody read Snowden's book?

ArnoVW 6y ago

In general, in the spyworld you do not talk about your tricks. But if you've already been found out, and your tricks no longer work, there is still political advantage to be had (damage your adversary, obtain credit from partners, obtain funding, easier recrutement). https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/dutch-intelligence-hacked-video-cameras-in-office-of-russians-who-hacked-dnc/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/dutch...

coldtea 6y ago
Or if you just want to claim it to damage your adversary, whether they have the unit you supposedly hacked and it does what you say it does, or not...

ciarannolan 6y ago

Covert access for over two years to every part of the GRU's election meddling apparatus is very impressive, actually. Once you're caught, too, there's sometimes value in sort of showing it off and embarrassing your adversary.

jeroenhd 6y ago

From what I've read, things started going wrong when an (ex?) official of the US released information the Dutch shared with their American allies[1]. Details on when or why access to the Russian networks was lost aren't readily available (secret service and all that) but I do remember reading about the intelligence agencies being not particularly pleased with the way the information was publicly released by their allies. It makes sense that someone gloating about how there's an ally of theirs in your network will make you take a second look at the traffic flowing through your network if you're waging cyber warfare. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-details-emerge-about-2014-russian-hack-of-the-state-department-it-was-hand-to-hand-combat/2017/04/03/d89168e0-124c-11e7-833c-503e1f6394c9_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-d...