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I don't believe anybody's surveillance is good. This is the opposite of free and open society, and is a creeping tyranny. I discourage any such devotion in my
by fit2rule 6y ago
I don't believe anybody's surveillance is good. This is the opposite of free and open society, and is a creeping tyranny. I discourage any such devotion in my peers - its all too easy to just submit to the overwhelming might of the wests' military industrial complex.
I guess the best thing to do is to continue to fight covert manipulation at all costs, using any means necessary beyond violence. This seems to not be so much of a zero-sum game as capitulation.
- JumpCrisscross 6y ago> I don't believe anybody's surveillance is good So America shouldn’t have tried to crack the Enigma? Or keep an eye on Soviet missiles? All surveillance is bad is a fairly-extreme stance.
- ginko 6y agoIt was the Poles and British that cracked the Enigma.
- JumpCrisscross 6y agoTrue, but American forces later manufactured and utilized their findings. That was quite certainly surveillance. And, by my book, it was quite certainly good.
- pjc50 6y agoWartime surveillance is necessary. Peacetime surveillance is bad. The problem is getting to "peacetime".
- fit2rule 6y agoExactly. If we spent half as much making peace as we do funding war and terror, we'd all be multilingual and a lot more tolerant of cultures not our own...
- JumpCrisscross 6y ago> The problem is getting to "peacetime". Or defining it. Nobody declares wars anymore. And a large part of intelligence is oriented towards preventing wars through deterrence.