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If you think about it, then it’s clear that in free society healthcare will capture all excess money. Essentially you can spend unlimited money on life extensio

by vl 6y ago

If you think about it, then it’s clear that in free society healthcare will capture all excess money. Essentially you can spend unlimited money on life extension, and people are genetically pre-disposed to fear death. There are some nuances, but essentially healthcare is only going to grow and will continue to be and become overly-dominant sector of US economy. Ironically, if it’s de-regulated, it will capture excess money more effeciently.

XorNot 6y ago
And this children is why you should go bankrupt if you get appendicitis... Every other developed country on Earth gets more down while spending half as much per person. Your system is just corrupt garbage.
- vl 6y ago
  To your first point: it’s not true in US healthcare. To your second point: US has very low interest rates, money are cheap, nobody wants to work, thus services are expensive. To your third point: system is not corrupt, but over-regulated garbage. To your general sentiment: my point is not related to the actual cost of services.
  - XorNot 6y ago
    Your point is being made as though it's relevant to a healthcare system that exists today anywhere on the planet. It isn't. It especially isn't related to the US healthcare system, which again, costs the US government - not the US consumer who pays astronomically more then any other developed nation - about twice as much per capita as other developed nations, while providing less services to the public. Whether or not healthcare might consume all the remaining spending is irrelevant when your system manages to be twice as expensive per capita while excluding tens of millions of people from any coverage at all. An emergency appendectomy - life saving surgery - costs $15,000[1] unless you manage to find a surgeon who's in your healthcare network, available right then, and you also don't get unlucky enough that anyone in that operating theatre while you're unconscious is also in your healthcare network. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-health-care-industry-is-letting-surgeons-behave-like-muggers/2020/01/13/f2089094-3636-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-health-care-indu... Your system is corrupt garbage.
    - xnyan 6y ago
      Self-deception. "We live in THE greatest country, ergo what you say can't be true. Also I have ideological stances I'm not willing to consider. QED." - A summery of most conversations I have with about 40% of the US population on healthcare.

by vl 6y ago

XorNot 6y ago

And this children is why you should go bankrupt if you get appendicitis... Every other developed country on Earth gets more down while spending half as much per person. Your system is just corrupt garbage.

vl 6y ago
To your first point: it’s not true in US healthcare. To your second point: US has very low interest rates, money are cheap, nobody wants to work, thus services are expensive. To your third point: system is not corrupt, but over-regulated garbage. To your general sentiment: my point is not related to the actual cost of services.
- XorNot 6y ago
  Your point is being made as though it's relevant to a healthcare system that exists today anywhere on the planet. It isn't. It especially isn't related to the US healthcare system, which again, costs the US government - not the US consumer who pays astronomically more then any other developed nation - about twice as much per capita as other developed nations, while providing less services to the public. Whether or not healthcare might consume all the remaining spending is irrelevant when your system manages to be twice as expensive per capita while excluding tens of millions of people from any coverage at all. An emergency appendectomy - life saving surgery - costs $15,000[1] unless you manage to find a surgeon who's in your healthcare network, available right then, and you also don't get unlucky enough that anyone in that operating theatre while you're unconscious is also in your healthcare network. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-health-care-industry-is-letting-surgeons-behave-like-muggers/2020/01/13/f2089094-3636-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-health-care-indu... Your system is corrupt garbage.
  - xnyan 6y ago
    Self-deception. "We live in THE greatest country, ergo what you say can't be true. Also I have ideological stances I'm not willing to consider. QED." - A summery of most conversations I have with about 40% of the US population on healthcare.