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For many schools, football subsidizes all sports, even after paying the coaches and staff. And for a lot of schools, football pays for scholastics. You'd be har

For many schools, football subsidizes all sports, even after paying the coaches and staff. And for a lot of schools, football pays for scholastics. You'd be hard pressed to find a school that pays a coach out of line financially.

take_a_breath 6y ago
I keep reading these same talking points without any data to support it. Can you provide any details on “many schools” or “a lot of schools”? My alma mater, Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, pays their coach $533k/year. That is half-a-million dollars for a mid-tier team in a mid-tier conference. They also built a $13 million indoor sports practice facility a few years ago. https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/facilities-indoor-sports-center-15-html.aspx https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/facilities-indoor-...
- exclusiv 6y ago
  Miami of Ohio isn't a football school as you know, although it seems they want to try and capture more of the football pie. The school has 36M in annual sports revenue [1], a good chunk of that football. From a source that had 28M in total sports revenue, it stated over 6M in football [2] As the coach of a multi-million dollar business, 533k is justified. Especially since the talent is currently not compensated. If you want to compete you have to spend a decent amount. You're right that Miami of Ohio is mid-tier but the 533k is a mid-tier salary these days (#112 in rankings). There are 6 other MAC schools with higher coach salaries than your school. [2] Also, from your own article "The 91,000-square-foot facility was built completely with donor contributions and is used by student-athletes, intramural and club sports participants and youth athletic tournaments." Donor contributions.... And used by everyone for various sports including youth... So I'm not sure why you are so upset. Aside from that - there are 108 schools with athletic revenue of 30+M. [1] And, "The average college football team makes more money than the next 35 college sports combined" [3]. [1] https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ [2] https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/ https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/ [3] https://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-football-revenue-2017-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-football-reve... [4] https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/miami-university-oxford/student-life/sports/ https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/miami-university-oxf...
ikeyany 6y ago
What percentage of schools is this true for? There are only a few dozen schools that have a big time football program.
- vonmoltke 6y ago
  In general, "[f]ootball coaches have a rather large salary" correlates with "schools that have a big time football program".
  - ikeyany 6y ago
    But these are the extreme outliers. Here is a list of schools in Tennessee as an example [0]. How many of them have a big time football program? Maybe 4 or 5 out of the 53 schools? [0] - https://www.universityreview.org/tennessee-colleges/ https://www.universityreview.org/tennessee-colleges/

take_a_breath 6y ago

I keep reading these same talking points without any data to support it. Can you provide any details on “many schools” or “a lot of schools”? My alma mater, Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, pays their coach $533k/year. That is half-a-million dollars for a mid-tier team in a mid-tier conference. They also built a $13 million indoor sports practice facility a few years ago. https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/facilities-indoor-sports-center-15-html.aspx https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/facilities-indoor-...

exclusiv 6y ago
Miami of Ohio isn't a football school as you know, although it seems they want to try and capture more of the football pie. The school has 36M in annual sports revenue [1], a good chunk of that football. From a source that had 28M in total sports revenue, it stated over 6M in football [2] As the coach of a multi-million dollar business, 533k is justified. Especially since the talent is currently not compensated. If you want to compete you have to spend a decent amount. You're right that Miami of Ohio is mid-tier but the 533k is a mid-tier salary these days (#112 in rankings). There are 6 other MAC schools with higher coach salaries than your school. [2] Also, from your own article "The 91,000-square-foot facility was built completely with donor contributions and is used by student-athletes, intramural and club sports participants and youth athletic tournaments." Donor contributions.... And used by everyone for various sports including youth... So I'm not sure why you are so upset. Aside from that - there are 108 schools with athletic revenue of 30+M. [1] And, "The average college football team makes more money than the next 35 college sports combined" [3]. [1] https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ [2] https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/ https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/ [3] https://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-football-revenue-2017-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-football-reve... [4] https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/miami-university-oxford/student-life/sports/ https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/miami-university-oxf...

ikeyany 6y ago

What percentage of schools is this true for? There are only a few dozen schools that have a big time football program.

vonmoltke 6y ago
In general, "[f]ootball coaches have a rather large salary" correlates with "schools that have a big time football program".
- ikeyany 6y ago
  But these are the extreme outliers. Here is a list of schools in Tennessee as an example [0]. How many of them have a big time football program? Maybe 4 or 5 out of the 53 schools? [0] - https://www.universityreview.org/tennessee-colleges/ https://www.universityreview.org/tennessee-colleges/