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Your case is more clear cut because that is a glitch in the website. It seems that in this case Doordash is offering a promotion. Calling that fraud would be li

Your case is more clear cut because that is a glitch in the website. It seems that in this case Doordash is offering a promotion. Calling that fraud would be like calling taking advantage of reward points fraud.

tptacek 6y ago
It gets dicier when the restaurant starts shipping out plain pizza dough.
- kingkawn 6y ago
  Not if the customer ordered plain pizza dough
  - tptacek 6y ago
    That's not how this works. The glitch is that there's a particular menu-item mispriced by Doordash. You can't just order arbitrary things at arbitrary prices, and when the restaurant takes an order for X and delivers Y, it's taking a step towards making a material false statement to obtain something of value.
- Beldin 6y ago
  This made me wonder: what if a restaurant puts a pain dough "pizza" for $30 on their menu? Of course, no one would order it. But in this situation, an aggregator could offer it and the restaurant owner could take advantage of that. It smells like fraud, except that every individual step seems legitimate (albeit weird). I'm pretty sure you're allowed to charge ridiculous prices for common goods if you so choose...
  - hhmc 6y ago
    It still requires the aggregator to offer it for less that $30 (at least the cost of dough less). Which, at least in this case, seems to requires a scraping error.
- hannasanarion 6y ago
  What restaurant doesn't allow alterations? "I want a supreme pizza, hold the pepperoni, sausage, peppers, onions, olives, sauce, and cheese".
sdenton4 6y ago
Meanwhile, door dash never asked for the restaurant to participate in the "promotion," so screw them... They are offering to deliver boxes of dough at deathly inflated prices, with no other agreements with the restaurant. How is taking advantage of that "service" fraud?
- bambax 6y ago
  Exactly. That's the real problem. Even if it's just a "trial". Somehow getting a delivery number on the restaurant's listing without their knowledge or consent is abuse. Good thing they get punished for it.

tptacek 6y ago

It gets dicier when the restaurant starts shipping out plain pizza dough.

kingkawn 6y ago
Not if the customer ordered plain pizza dough
- tptacek 6y ago
  That's not how this works. The glitch is that there's a particular menu-item mispriced by Doordash. You can't just order arbitrary things at arbitrary prices, and when the restaurant takes an order for X and delivers Y, it's taking a step towards making a material false statement to obtain something of value.
Beldin 6y ago
This made me wonder: what if a restaurant puts a pain dough "pizza" for $30 on their menu? Of course, no one would order it. But in this situation, an aggregator could offer it and the restaurant owner could take advantage of that. It smells like fraud, except that every individual step seems legitimate (albeit weird). I'm pretty sure you're allowed to charge ridiculous prices for common goods if you so choose...
- hhmc 6y ago
  It still requires the aggregator to offer it for less that $30 (at least the cost of dough less). Which, at least in this case, seems to requires a scraping error.
hannasanarion 6y ago
What restaurant doesn't allow alterations? "I want a supreme pizza, hold the pepperoni, sausage, peppers, onions, olives, sauce, and cheese".

sdenton4 6y ago

Meanwhile, door dash never asked for the restaurant to participate in the "promotion," so screw them... They are offering to deliver boxes of dough at deathly inflated prices, with no other agreements with the restaurant. How is taking advantage of that "service" fraud?

bambax 6y ago
Exactly. That's the real problem. Even if it's just a "trial". Somehow getting a delivery number on the restaurant's listing without their knowledge or consent is abuse. Good thing they get punished for it.