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Its right after the roadster and semi are in full production. They are scheduled for ~4 years after their announcement if they don't get pushed back again. I s

by jsight 6y ago

Its right after the roadster and semi are in full production. They are scheduled for ~4 years after their announcement if they don't get pushed back again. I see no reason to believe this is less of a hype followed by vaporware.

lowdose 6y ago
Aren't we now past the mark to call Tesla vaporware. Musk build a legit revenue stream and for both customers and shareholders this was a very welcome change. I wonder if any of the incumbents would have a similar electric car as Tesla in 2030. They haven't moved an inch since Musk is taking their industry by storm, thats almost already 10 years. Even Audi has mayor problems manufacturing their etron.
- clouddrover 6y ago
  > Even Audi has mayor problems manufacturing their etron. The Audi e-tron outsells the Model X and the Model S: https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/global-top-20-march-2020.html https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/global-top-20-march-20... And the e-tron is outselling the Model X and Model S combined in Europe: https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/europe-march-2020.html https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/europe-march-2020.html
  - derision 6y ago
    There's not much reason to buy a model s right now compared to the 3 imo. The model 3 is #1 on your list and sells 4-8x more than the next 5 on the list, including the e-tron
    - clouddrover 6y ago
      The e-tron is not in the same price category as the Model 3. The Volkswagen ID.3 is in the same category. The ID.3 will become the best selling EV in Europe, maybe as soon as this year, definitely by next year. Have a look at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03n2H_EY2zA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03n2H_EY2zA
- jsight 6y ago
  I'm not calling Tesla vaporware. They make the best EVs on the market and I do like them. Having said that, they have a bad habit of announcing products with _unbelievable_ specs that are just a little too good to be true and then delaying them constantly. For examples, see FSD, the Semi, the Roadster, and maybe the Cybertruck as well. Obviously we do not know for sure if the Cybertruck will be delayed, but it would be an amazingly fast program if it were to be produced in volume by the end of next year. I still love the SX3, and Y, though. They are great products, IMO.

by jsight 6y ago

lowdose 6y ago

Aren't we now past the mark to call Tesla vaporware. Musk build a legit revenue stream and for both customers and shareholders this was a very welcome change. I wonder if any of the incumbents would have a similar electric car as Tesla in 2030. They haven't moved an inch since Musk is taking their industry by storm, thats almost already 10 years. Even Audi has mayor problems manufacturing their etron.

clouddrover 6y ago
> Even Audi has mayor problems manufacturing their etron. The Audi e-tron outsells the Model X and the Model S: https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/global-top-20-march-2020.html https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/global-top-20-march-20... And the e-tron is outselling the Model X and Model S combined in Europe: https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/europe-march-2020.html https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2020/04/europe-march-2020.html
- derision 6y ago
  There's not much reason to buy a model s right now compared to the 3 imo. The model 3 is #1 on your list and sells 4-8x more than the next 5 on the list, including the e-tron
  - clouddrover 6y ago
    The e-tron is not in the same price category as the Model 3. The Volkswagen ID.3 is in the same category. The ID.3 will become the best selling EV in Europe, maybe as soon as this year, definitely by next year. Have a look at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03n2H_EY2zA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03n2H_EY2zA
jsight 6y ago
I'm not calling Tesla vaporware. They make the best EVs on the market and I do like them. Having said that, they have a bad habit of announcing products with _unbelievable_ specs that are just a little too good to be true and then delaying them constantly. For examples, see FSD, the Semi, the Roadster, and maybe the Cybertruck as well. Obviously we do not know for sure if the Cybertruck will be delayed, but it would be an amazingly fast program if it were to be produced in volume by the end of next year. I still love the SX3, and Y, though. They are great products, IMO.