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Unless Microsoft releases at least one of its products (ms-sql, visual studio, windows, office) under an open source license i'm calling bullshit.

• elcomet 7y ago
  Visual studio code is open source. So is the new windows terminal.
  • colejohnson66 7y ago
    Yes. And not the “eh” open source MS-PL, but actual MIT.
  • tsar9x 7y ago
    If visual studio code is open source, please show me code of Remote Dev extension.
    • colejohnson66 7y ago
      https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release ?
      • sunahe 7y ago
        No code there
      • mambru 6y ago
        https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release/issues/391 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release/issues/39...
    • deleted 7y ago
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    • moogly 7y ago
      Goalpost moving.
    • belltaco 7y ago
      Wait, what kind of logic is that? Why does an extension need to be open source for a program to be called open source? If someone writes a closed source plugin for LibreOffice or GIMP, does that mean they aren't open source?
  • znpy 6y ago
    I was talking about "visual studio", not "visual studio code".
• satysin 7y ago
  They have a couple of open source products. However they are not one of the big 4 as you have listed. I have heard MS employees talk about open sourcing some of their bigger products and the conversation always comes down to the issue of the third party code (libraries, etc) they use that cannot be open sourced along with the main product. I'm not defending Microsoft in any way just giving an explanation I have heard over the last few years. I believe Mark Russinovich has talked about open sourcing things a number of times if you want to look into it further.
• scarface74 7y ago
  So where can I download the code for Google’s search engine? The backend code for Docs/Sheets? Google Play Services?
• traskjd 7y ago
  Likewise for Google. Until that search engine is open source, it's like they've done nothing for open source. /s
  • zrka 7y ago
    Not a Googler, but an OSS dev. Google is different in that a) the Googlers inside OSS projects generally behave and are not power hungry and b) Google has started and open sourced large projects like Chromium or Go. Microsoft tries to aggressively buy its way into existing mature projects.
• bdcravens 7y ago
  What (large) companies have open-sourced their core product? I don't think anyone is accusing Shopify, Facebook, Google, etc of being anti-open source.
  • 2fast4you 6y ago
    Gitlab
    • tmottabr 6y ago
      Gitlab core offering is gitlab enterprise that is not fully open source. They do have gitlab ce that has just a subset of the functionalities from Gitlab Enterprise that is open sourced.
      • ahuang1018 6y ago
        FYI, https://about.gitlab.com/install/ce-or-ee/ https://about.gitlab.com/install/ce-or-ee/
        • tmottabr 6y ago
          that page is PR lingo telling exactly the same thing i said.. the first line even say: in doubt use gitlab ee the point here is that core has two distinct meaning in the op question in gitlab pr.. Gitlab ee is their core product, core here meaning their main product.. the fact that the core of that product, here meaning the base the product is built upon, was released as open source does not make the whole product open source.. So, gitlab core\main product is not open source.. But the core\base of that product is..
  • znpy 6y ago
    IBM, sun microsystems.