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Stop using Apple products. Stop developing for Apple products. Stop treating Apple like they matter.

by gsich 6y ago

yawn 6y ago
Your other choice without lots of friction is Google, an advertising company. I hate that this is the world we live in.
- gsich 6y ago
  At least with Android (not Google) I have a choice on what software I install. Besides that you can still use a desktop PC. Most people do anyway.
  - SXX 6y ago
    > At least with Android (not Google) I have a choice on what software I install. I'm have very negative outlook on Apple with their vendor lock-in and walled garden, but how long do you think Google will let you make this choice if they gonna have no competition at all? Google was slowly making Android less and less open with every release. Now "security" features like SafetyNet decide whatever you're allowed to use software or not. Think on it! Just look at what Google doing with web because of their monopoly on search and browser markets.
    - tristan957 6y ago
      F-Droid exists as an alternative app store or you can distribute APKs. Also running Android from a vendor is a horrible experience. I recommend installing LineageOS or any other alternative ROM. Google might have a monopoly on the web, but at least they have given us tools to work around it, unlike Apple.
  - zymhan 6y ago
    > I have a choice on what software I install No you don't. Much of the software preinstalled on an Android device is permanent. And you can try stripping out Google Play Services, but good luck having a "smart" phone.
    - gsich 6y ago
      Those services are not whats making a smartphone "smart".
yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
> Stop using Apple products. Sure. > Stop developing for Apple products. Stop treating Apple like they matter. The market, as it actually exists, disagrees (especially in terms of profit, as opposed to number of devices). I understand hating Apple, but if I write software for profit, I care about where the customers/money are and Apple absolutely qualifies. Should you also support other platforms? Absolutely. But removing support for a platform like you're suggesting is at best prioritizing ideology over profit, and even the ideology argument is... not one-sided.

Stop using Apple products. Stop developing for Apple products. Stop treating Apple like they matter.

by gsich 6y ago

Stop using Apple products. Stop developing for Apple products. Stop treating Apple like they matter.

yawn 6y ago

Your other choice without lots of friction is Google, an advertising company. I hate that this is the world we live in.

gsich 6y ago
At least with Android (not Google) I have a choice on what software I install. Besides that you can still use a desktop PC. Most people do anyway.
- SXX 6y ago
  > At least with Android (not Google) I have a choice on what software I install. I'm have very negative outlook on Apple with their vendor lock-in and walled garden, but how long do you think Google will let you make this choice if they gonna have no competition at all? Google was slowly making Android less and less open with every release. Now "security" features like SafetyNet decide whatever you're allowed to use software or not. Think on it! Just look at what Google doing with web because of their monopoly on search and browser markets.
  - tristan957 6y ago
    F-Droid exists as an alternative app store or you can distribute APKs. Also running Android from a vendor is a horrible experience. I recommend installing LineageOS or any other alternative ROM. Google might have a monopoly on the web, but at least they have given us tools to work around it, unlike Apple.
- zymhan 6y ago
  > I have a choice on what software I install No you don't. Much of the software preinstalled on an Android device is permanent. And you can try stripping out Google Play Services, but good luck having a "smart" phone.
  - gsich 6y ago
    Those services are not whats making a smartphone "smart".

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago

> Stop using Apple products. Sure. > Stop developing for Apple products. Stop treating Apple like they matter. The market, as it actually exists, disagrees (especially in terms of profit, as opposed to number of devices). I understand hating Apple, but if I write software for profit, I care about where the customers/money are and Apple absolutely qualifies. Should you also support other platforms? Absolutely. But removing support for a platform like you're suggesting is at best prioritizing ideology over profit, and even the ideology argument is... not one-sided.