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Thunderbird isn't a native app, for the record. It's a web application similar to an Electron application, but with extra steps.

by kick 6y ago

monocasa 6y ago
Eh. XUL isn't really a web technology the same way as Electron.
- kick 6y ago
  It's not XUL anymore, actually, as far as I know. That's why it ripped out support for XUL addons.
  - monocasa 6y ago
    Firefox has been ripping out xul, but Thunderbird still appears to support it.
    - kick 6y ago
      Only if you're using a ridiculously outdated copy: changed Add-on support: Add-ons are only supported if add-on authors have adapted them changed Dictionary support: Only WebExtension dictionaries are supported now. Both addons.mozilla.org and addons.thunderbird.net now provide WebExtension dictionaries. changed Theme support: Only WebExtension themes are supported now. Both addons.mozilla.org and addons.thunderbird.net now provide WebExtension themes. https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/68.0/releasenotes/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/68.0/releaseno...
      - monocasa 6y ago
        Literally here's a doc explaining how XUL has changed as of Thunderbird 68, the most recent version, released about a month and a half ago. Yes, some elements have been removed, but others have been modified and still exist. https://developer.thunderbird.net/add-ons/updating/tb68/changes https://developer.thunderbird.net/add-ons/updating/tb68/chan... And that's in the add-on documentation, not even just internal development docs. Also, describing information changed in the most recent stable release, a month and a half ago, hardly qualifies any older as "ridiculously outdated ".
offmycloud 6y ago
Last time I looked, Thunderbird was about: - 1/3 C/C++ - 1/3 Javascript - 1/3 everything else (XML, CSS, etc) known to humanity
- kick 6y ago
  I'll grant you that an Electron app is generally 90% C++ (ships a web browser), but I'm not sure if that makes Thunderbird (ships a web browser) any better.

Thunderbird isn't a native app, for the record. It's a web application similar to an Electron application, but with extra steps.

by kick 6y ago

Thunderbird isn't a native app, for the record. It's a web application similar to an Electron application, but with extra steps.

monocasa 6y ago

Eh. XUL isn't really a web technology the same way as Electron.

kick 6y ago
It's not XUL anymore, actually, as far as I know. That's why it ripped out support for XUL addons.
- monocasa 6y ago
  Firefox has been ripping out xul, but Thunderbird still appears to support it.
  - kick 6y ago
    Only if you're using a ridiculously outdated copy: changed Add-on support: Add-ons are only supported if add-on authors have adapted them changed Dictionary support: Only WebExtension dictionaries are supported now. Both addons.mozilla.org and addons.thunderbird.net now provide WebExtension dictionaries. changed Theme support: Only WebExtension themes are supported now. Both addons.mozilla.org and addons.thunderbird.net now provide WebExtension themes. https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/68.0/releasenotes/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/68.0/releaseno...
    - monocasa 6y ago
      Literally here's a doc explaining how XUL has changed as of Thunderbird 68, the most recent version, released about a month and a half ago. Yes, some elements have been removed, but others have been modified and still exist. https://developer.thunderbird.net/add-ons/updating/tb68/changes https://developer.thunderbird.net/add-ons/updating/tb68/chan... And that's in the add-on documentation, not even just internal development docs. Also, describing information changed in the most recent stable release, a month and a half ago, hardly qualifies any older as "ridiculously outdated ".

offmycloud 6y ago

Last time I looked, Thunderbird was about: - 1/3 C/C++ - 1/3 Javascript - 1/3 everything else (XML, CSS, etc) known to humanity

kick 6y ago
I'll grant you that an Electron app is generally 90% C++ (ships a web browser), but I'm not sure if that makes Thunderbird (ships a web browser) any better.