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you should see the bunkers congress built themselves with taxpayer money, like we really want them to be the only ones to survive somewhere by now, some genera

by ck2 6y ago

you should see the bunkers congress built themselves with taxpayer money, like we really want them to be the only ones to survive somewhere by now, some general has decided he wants to monitor icbms via internet and the lowest bidder has used something wildly unpatched and never updated btw after seeing how half the population refuses to isolate or even wear a mask can you just imagine them actually staying in bunkers during nuclear fallout, deadly radiation just like a virus they can't see so how can it possibly hurt them?

jakeogh 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206415
- mullen 6y ago
  Seriously, you linked to a conspiracy website on Hacker News?
  - jakeogh 6y ago
    What in that paper do you object to? It's fully sourced, by a neuroscientist. Lets chat it about it in it's own thread if you are interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15003606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15003606
    - admax88q 6y ago
      First sentence of your article, emphasis added. > With the advent of the so-called COVID-19 pandemic Lol sure bud its "fullly sourced." Edit It was an intetesting read though. Crux of ths argument is that mask use reduces oxygen intake and increases strain lungs and that lower blood oxygen content can lower immune system function. Neat find, but unfortunately the conclusion is bullshit. You dont wear a mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect others in case you are infected. You dont wear them all the time, obviously only when youre in public areas like a grocery store. If your lung function is low to the point thay you cant wear a mask while grocery shopping then order your groceries online or send a friend.
      - jakeogh 6y ago
        Masks are not established to reduce the spread of CV's. They will however lower the blood oxygen content of the people using them. It's entirely possible they are a net negative. Also, a non trivial # of people are driving with then, walking outside, riding their bike... I could go on. And then theres that psychological elephant in the room.
chiph 6y ago
> you should see the bunkers congress built themselves with taxpayer money One of Congress' duties is to declare war. So they need to be alive to authorize the use of military force. Should they have built their former bunker at a luxury hotel? Well, it provided a good cover story, and if you've seen the videos of it, they were sleeping in metal bunk beds, so not all that luxurious in the bunker itself. > monitor icbms via internet The USAF is very serious about securing those systems. They aren't even going to use SIPRNet for that. They have watched War Games too. > can you just imagine them actually staying in bunkers during nuclear fallout I was trained as a radiological monitor in high school and would have collected readings for determining when it was safe to go out, or more likely, which part of the improvised shelter provided the most protection. This isn't Switzerland where bunker construction is part of the federal building code. edit Here's an article about Swiss bunkers. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/prepared-for-anything_bunkers-for-all/995134 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/prepared-for-anything_bunkers-f...

by ck2 6y ago

jakeogh 6y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206415

mullen 6y ago
Seriously, you linked to a conspiracy website on Hacker News?
- jakeogh 6y ago
  What in that paper do you object to? It's fully sourced, by a neuroscientist. Lets chat it about it in it's own thread if you are interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15003606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15003606
  - admax88q 6y ago
    First sentence of your article, emphasis added. > With the advent of the so-called COVID-19 pandemic Lol sure bud its "fullly sourced." Edit It was an intetesting read though. Crux of ths argument is that mask use reduces oxygen intake and increases strain lungs and that lower blood oxygen content can lower immune system function. Neat find, but unfortunately the conclusion is bullshit. You dont wear a mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect others in case you are infected. You dont wear them all the time, obviously only when youre in public areas like a grocery store. If your lung function is low to the point thay you cant wear a mask while grocery shopping then order your groceries online or send a friend.
    - jakeogh 6y ago
      Masks are not established to reduce the spread of CV's. They will however lower the blood oxygen content of the people using them. It's entirely possible they are a net negative. Also, a non trivial # of people are driving with then, walking outside, riding their bike... I could go on. And then theres that psychological elephant in the room.

chiph 6y ago

> you should see the bunkers congress built themselves with taxpayer money One of Congress' duties is to declare war. So they need to be alive to authorize the use of military force. Should they have built their former bunker at a luxury hotel? Well, it provided a good cover story, and if you've seen the videos of it, they were sleeping in metal bunk beds, so not all that luxurious in the bunker itself. > monitor icbms via internet The USAF is very serious about securing those systems. They aren't even going to use SIPRNet for that. They have watched War Games too. > can you just imagine them actually staying in bunkers during nuclear fallout I was trained as a radiological monitor in high school and would have collected readings for determining when it was safe to go out, or more likely, which part of the improvised shelter provided the most protection. This isn't Switzerland where bunker construction is part of the federal building code. edit Here's an article about Swiss bunkers. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/prepared-for-anything_bunkers-for-all/995134 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/prepared-for-anything_bunkers-f...