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Google has an unusual situation where search now only needs to be good enough. They are much more focused on the knowledge engine of providing direct answers an

Google has an unusual situation where search now only needs to be good enough. They are much more focused on the knowledge engine of providing direct answers and the advertising business. With such a dominant market share, search has certainly lowered in quality

londons_explore 6y ago
> search has certainly lowered in quality I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. A good chunk of that is that more and more info is locked into walled gardens (in some App, on Facebook/Instagram/TicTok), but also a lot of what people want to find in todays world just isn't on the internet anymore, except places like the web archive, where Google isn't allowed to venture...
- dewey 6y ago
  > I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. I think that's not the case: There's a lot more people with more diverse backgrounds, from different locations and cultures online now than it was the case 10 years ago. It's just harder to find the places through a "globalized" search that is mostly aiming at commercial offers. From time to time I stumble upon absolute niche blogs (Example from my feed reader: https://singapore60smusic.blogspot.com https://singapore60smusic.blogspot.com) and it reminds me that there's a lot of good resources out there if you find them somehow).
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    Although a quick search reveals that: https://www.google.com/search?q=1960s+music+blog+from+singapore+where+the+computer+is+down https://www.google.com/search?q=1960s+music+blog+from+singap... I'd guess the issue is simply people aren't looking for it.
- naravara 6y ago
  >I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. Isn't think kind of a feedback loop though? Search gets bad, so people don't bother putting useful, relevant, and high effort content since nobody will find it. Thus, search gets worse since there is less useful content to crawl. Thus even more of the content out there starts leaning towards clickbait and SEO rather than thoughtful writing. And so on and so forth.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  Use a search engine like Searx[1], and it might give you a different perspective. [1] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx https://github.com/asciimoo/searx
smitty1e 6y ago
Hence Duck Duck Go. As with TFA, the notion that Google has some death grip on data is premature at best. Go to Wordpress and start a blog. The fascists have blown up much of the rest of social media.

londons_explore 6y ago

> search has certainly lowered in quality I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. A good chunk of that is that more and more info is locked into walled gardens (in some App, on Facebook/Instagram/TicTok), but also a lot of what people want to find in todays world just isn't on the internet anymore, except places like the web archive, where Google isn't allowed to venture...

dewey 6y ago
> I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. I think that's not the case: There's a lot more people with more diverse backgrounds, from different locations and cultures online now than it was the case 10 years ago. It's just harder to find the places through a "globalized" search that is mostly aiming at commercial offers. From time to time I stumble upon absolute niche blogs (Example from my feed reader: https://singapore60smusic.blogspot.com https://singapore60smusic.blogspot.com) and it reminds me that there's a lot of good resources out there if you find them somehow).
- londons_explore 6y ago
  Although a quick search reveals that: https://www.google.com/search?q=1960s+music+blog+from+singapore+where+the+computer+is+down https://www.google.com/search?q=1960s+music+blog+from+singap... I'd guess the issue is simply people aren't looking for it.
naravara 6y ago
>I would argue that the public internet has lowered in quality, and the lowering quality of search results simply reflects that the information you're looking for often isn't out there. Isn't think kind of a feedback loop though? Search gets bad, so people don't bother putting useful, relevant, and high effort content since nobody will find it. Thus, search gets worse since there is less useful content to crawl. Thus even more of the content out there starts leaning towards clickbait and SEO rather than thoughtful writing. And so on and so forth.
heavyset_go 6y ago
Use a search engine like Searx[1], and it might give you a different perspective. [1] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

smitty1e 6y ago

Hence Duck Duck Go. As with TFA, the notion that Google has some death grip on data is premature at best. Go to Wordpress and start a blog. The fascists have blown up much of the rest of social media.