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Half of the examples given can easily apply to food delivery, namely pollution and human rights abuses.

Natsu 6y ago
Which human right is being abused here? People download the driver apps and work for them of their own free choice. As for pollution, if that's immoral, then so is going to the restaurant to eat itself as well as driving in general.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  > Which human right is being abused here? People download the driver apps and work for them of their own free choice. Not counting of course the fact that in certain regions of the world, if they don't do that they'll starve to death.
  - Natsu 6y ago
    I'm not aware of anyone running Uber, DoorDash, etc. where that's true. They require some sort of transport which prices the poor out of being able to provide that service in the poorest area I know of where such services are popular (Brazil).
    - Kaze404 6y ago
      It's not unusual for poor people who don't own cars to rent (with a Uber driver discount). Otherwise, they work using bicycles in the case of Uber Eats and other food delivery services. Source: I live in Brazil.
JamesBarney 6y ago
The argument recommends take out which also involves driving somewhere, and given that deliverers many times deliver to more than one household this is an argument for delivery over take out. Also it's not significant, even with a carbon tax to eliminate this externality that would be at most a dime or quarter of pollution. And human rights abuse? I had a job delivering, and it was honestly one of my favorite jobs. The pay wasn't great but just cruising around listening to music all night was awesome.
- otterley 6y ago
  "It can't possibly be happening because it never happened to me" is a pretty weak argument.
  - JamesBarney 6y ago
    Original argument was "bad things happen" then "humans right abuse is somehow related to delivery but I won't specify how" then I replied "I was a deliverer and it was a fine job" Of the three arguments mine is most relevant. Maybe you can explain how subway delivery involves human rights abuse.

Which human right is being abused here? People download the driver apps and work for them of their own free choice. As for pollution, if that's immoral, then so is going to the restaurant to eat itself as well as driving in general.

Kaze404 6y ago
> Which human right is being abused here? People download the driver apps and work for them of their own free choice. Not counting of course the fact that in certain regions of the world, if they don't do that they'll starve to death.
- Natsu 6y ago
  I'm not aware of anyone running Uber, DoorDash, etc. where that's true. They require some sort of transport which prices the poor out of being able to provide that service in the poorest area I know of where such services are popular (Brazil).
  - Kaze404 6y ago
    It's not unusual for poor people who don't own cars to rent (with a Uber driver discount). Otherwise, they work using bicycles in the case of Uber Eats and other food delivery services. Source: I live in Brazil.

JamesBarney 6y ago

The argument recommends take out which also involves driving somewhere, and given that deliverers many times deliver to more than one household this is an argument for delivery over take out. Also it's not significant, even with a carbon tax to eliminate this externality that would be at most a dime or quarter of pollution. And human rights abuse? I had a job delivering, and it was honestly one of my favorite jobs. The pay wasn't great but just cruising around listening to music all night was awesome.

otterley 6y ago
"It can't possibly be happening because it never happened to me" is a pretty weak argument.
- JamesBarney 6y ago
  Original argument was "bad things happen" then "humans right abuse is somehow related to delivery but I won't specify how" then I replied "I was a deliverer and it was a fine job" Of the three arguments mine is most relevant. Maybe you can explain how subway delivery involves human rights abuse.