I'm sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse here. I would genuinely like to understand your point of view. I'm not sure if you were the one who downvoted me here but

I'm sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse here. I would genuinely like to understand your point of view. I'm not sure if you were the one who downvoted me here but it hardly seems fair to downvote someone for having a different point of view.