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>it triggers the page load when the user starts pressing their mouse This breaks the standard GUI interaction model. Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-u

>it triggers the page load when the user starts pressing their mouse This breaks the standard GUI interaction model. Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-up events, not mouse-down, and there's probably good reasons for that. Any client-side hacks that attempt to improve the perceived page speed are somehow bound to break something. If there really is a simple way, it's already been implemented at the browser level, for all websites. Link prefetching is already a thing. Do you want fast pages? Make your server-side rendering fast.

grx 6y ago
> Do you want fast pages? Make your server-side rendering fast Yeah.. imagine being so thirsty for page load efficiency that you ignore all the bloat of JavaScript and poor server-side rendering but instead directly skip to breaking the standardized GUI/UX
- dieulot 6y ago
  instant.page is 1.1kB and encourages efficient server-side rendering.
  - grx 6y ago
    Sorry if my comment came in kinda offensive, it's a general stance I was criticizing, not your project in particular! Your offer is based on an existing demand, so who should feel addressed are those who use solutions like yours.
CraftThatBlock 6y ago
This is incorrect. It starts loading on mouse down, but still acts on mouse up.
- mcintyre1994 6y ago
  It doesn't - try drag-dropping one of the links in their sidebar into a new tab. You get the page changed before you lift the mouse button.
- seabass 6y ago
  No. Mouse down on any of the sidebar links on that site to see for yourself.
- tjeannin 6y ago
  Not the case on the https://instant.page https://instant.page website. If you mouse down links, the page changes.
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boublepop 6y ago
There’s a joke about two bankers walking down wallstreet. One says to the other: “my gosh look, there’s a 100$ bill on the ground”. The other without looking down turns to him and says: “Impossible! iIf there was 100$ on the ground someone would have picked it up!”
reaperducer 6y ago
Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-up events, not mouse-down, and there's probably good reasons for that. So you can drag the link somewhere else. Like to the desktop or a text editor or a terminal window.
- hlandau 6y ago
  Yep. This convention also enables the cancellation of a click, which can be useful if you realise your error mid-click. Another piece of software egregious for violating this UI convention is Adobe Reader. I remember upgrading to, IIRC v9? and finding that all buttons in it had been changed to actuate on mouse-down, and wondering what the christ the developers were thinking. Perhaps they thought it made their software seem more "responsive".
chrismorgan 6y ago
But note that keyboard things operate on key down. Software operating on key up has caused me surprisingly much grief. I can think of two systems I interact with, off the top of my head, that trigger things on Escape key up, which is badly wrong in that I often do Alt down → Tab press → no wait, I do want to be here → Escape press → Alt up, and so the browser which didn’t see the Escape down (because it didn’t belong to it) does see the Escape up, and improperly cancels what I was in the middle of or similar. This is so annoying.

grx 6y ago

> Do you want fast pages? Make your server-side rendering fast Yeah.. imagine being so thirsty for page load efficiency that you ignore all the bloat of JavaScript and poor server-side rendering but instead directly skip to breaking the standardized GUI/UX

dieulot 6y ago
instant.page is 1.1kB and encourages efficient server-side rendering.
- grx 6y ago
  Sorry if my comment came in kinda offensive, it's a general stance I was criticizing, not your project in particular! Your offer is based on an existing demand, so who should feel addressed are those who use solutions like yours.

CraftThatBlock 6y ago

This is incorrect. It starts loading on mouse down, but still acts on mouse up.

mcintyre1994 6y ago
It doesn't - try drag-dropping one of the links in their sidebar into a new tab. You get the page changed before you lift the mouse button.
seabass 6y ago
No. Mouse down on any of the sidebar links on that site to see for yourself.
tjeannin 6y ago
Not the case on the https://instant.page https://instant.page website. If you mouse down links, the page changes.

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boublepop 6y ago

There’s a joke about two bankers walking down wallstreet. One says to the other: “my gosh look, there’s a 100$ bill on the ground”. The other without looking down turns to him and says: “Impossible! iIf there was 100$ on the ground someone would have picked it up!”

reaperducer 6y ago

Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-up events, not mouse-down, and there's probably good reasons for that. So you can drag the link somewhere else. Like to the desktop or a text editor or a terminal window.

hlandau 6y ago
Yep. This convention also enables the cancellation of a click, which can be useful if you realise your error mid-click. Another piece of software egregious for violating this UI convention is Adobe Reader. I remember upgrading to, IIRC v9? and finding that all buttons in it had been changed to actuate on mouse-down, and wondering what the christ the developers were thinking. Perhaps they thought it made their software seem more "responsive".

chrismorgan 6y ago

But note that keyboard things operate on key down. Software operating on key up has caused me surprisingly much grief. I can think of two systems I interact with, off the top of my head, that trigger things on Escape key up, which is badly wrong in that I often do Alt down → Tab press → no wait, I do want to be here → Escape press → Alt up, and so the browser which didn’t see the Escape down (because it didn’t belong to it) does see the Escape up, and improperly cancels what I was in the middle of or similar. This is so annoying.