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this is like people comparing the indigenous african slave trade to the triangle trade - completely facile. >Rome colonised southern europe colonization in th

this is like people comparing the indigenous african slave trade to the triangle trade - completely facile. >Rome colonised southern europe colonization in the ancient world wasn't rapacious like it was in the new world. conquered peoples maintained much of their way of life and simply became vassal. in the roman case (towards the end) they even got roman citizenship. Edit:I finally figured out hn downvotes - paper over a genocide nbd - use the word facile downvotes

Spooky23 6y ago
Tell that to the Gauls!
- throwlaplace 6y ago
  >In the five centuries between Caesar's conquest and the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the Gaulish language and cultural identity underwent a syncretism with the Roman culture of the new governing class, and evolved into a hybrid Gallo-Roman culture that eventually permeated all levels of society https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Gaul https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Gaul Can you point to symbiosis with native American culture that resembles that to any extent today in the US? All we have are racist football team mascots
  - mikepurvis 6y ago
    I think the parent may be making a joke about the village from Asterix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix#Description
mikepurvis 6y ago
The people being conquered in Europe were also a lot less vulnerable in several key ways— my understanding is that they were largely overwhelmed by superior military tactics and infrastructure (roads and so on), but once conquered they were at a similar level in overall technology and well positioned to participate in the larger Roman economy. North American native peoples faced new infectious diseases that they weren't at all prepared for, a huge technological disparity (guns), and a lot of predatory economics (trading away valuable furs for beads and trinkets).

Spooky23 6y ago

Tell that to the Gauls!

throwlaplace 6y ago
>In the five centuries between Caesar's conquest and the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the Gaulish language and cultural identity underwent a syncretism with the Roman culture of the new governing class, and evolved into a hybrid Gallo-Roman culture that eventually permeated all levels of society https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Gaul https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Gaul Can you point to symbiosis with native American culture that resembles that to any extent today in the US? All we have are racist football team mascots
- mikepurvis 6y ago
  I think the parent may be making a joke about the village from Asterix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix#Description

mikepurvis 6y ago

The people being conquered in Europe were also a lot less vulnerable in several key ways— my understanding is that they were largely overwhelmed by superior military tactics and infrastructure (roads and so on), but once conquered they were at a similar level in overall technology and well positioned to participate in the larger Roman economy. North American native peoples faced new infectious diseases that they weren't at all prepared for, a huge technological disparity (guns), and a lot of predatory economics (trading away valuable furs for beads and trinkets).