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Fair, initial communication focused around a fast timeline and didn't mention extensions. Given the history that was clearly a mistake. I still think the reacti

Fair, initial communication focused around a fast timeline and didn't mention extensions. Given the history that was clearly a mistake. I still think the reaction was a bit hysterical. Mozilla had very good reasons (conveniently ignored by some people) to break the extension ecosystem when they did, and they communicated that reason. In contrast they didn't say anything about not supporting extensions for future Firefox mobile.

Macha 6y ago
It's easy to say that the reaction was hysterical when the change that users wanted was made (well sort of, there's still a whitelist for extensions with no definite end date). But if people just posted on the first HN thread "I don't like this" and left it at that, I bet they would have followed their original roadmap more closely if there was no outcry of the plan to replace the current browser with no extension support. It's also worth putting into perspective that most of the "hysteria" is people posting their disapproval in HN/Reddit threads or putting thumbs down reactions on github comments. It's not like people were picketing Mozilla HQ. I'm sure you can find examples of crazy people on Twitter, it's a group of over 100 dissatisified people, but that's certainly not the majority.
- catalogia 6y ago
  > I'm sure you can find examples of crazy people on Twitter, it's a group of over 100 dissatisified people, but that's certainly not the majority. The world is so large, you can find examples of just about anything if you go searching for it.
  - Macha 6y ago
    I know, it's a defensive reflex these days. A lot of criticisms of company decisions these days get "Look, there's this person on Twitter/Reddit/whatever saying they wish bad things on an individual at the company", and an attempt to tar all critics as being like these examples. Usually in combination with calling the reaction overblown, which is I guess why I'm very defensive on this thread specifically.
- Certhas 6y ago
  Hey I am not saying people weren't perfectly in line to ask about this and raise the point/push for only releasing at feature parity. That's not what I recall the tone was though, heck even in this thread people are claiming that Mozilla wanted to eliminate extensions altogether. Mozilla employees also responded to these HN threads straight away clarifying that extensions were being looked at closely with intent (albeit no commitment) to have feature parity at launch. As I said, given the history they should have had a clear communication of what they intend to do about extensions when they premiered Firefox Preview. Of course that also implies that they would have had to have a clear idea of what they are going to do about them at the time.

Macha 6y ago

It's easy to say that the reaction was hysterical when the change that users wanted was made (well sort of, there's still a whitelist for extensions with no definite end date). But if people just posted on the first HN thread "I don't like this" and left it at that, I bet they would have followed their original roadmap more closely if there was no outcry of the plan to replace the current browser with no extension support. It's also worth putting into perspective that most of the "hysteria" is people posting their disapproval in HN/Reddit threads or putting thumbs down reactions on github comments. It's not like people were picketing Mozilla HQ. I'm sure you can find examples of crazy people on Twitter, it's a group of over 100 dissatisified people, but that's certainly not the majority.

catalogia 6y ago
> I'm sure you can find examples of crazy people on Twitter, it's a group of over 100 dissatisified people, but that's certainly not the majority. The world is so large, you can find examples of just about anything if you go searching for it.
- Macha 6y ago
  I know, it's a defensive reflex these days. A lot of criticisms of company decisions these days get "Look, there's this person on Twitter/Reddit/whatever saying they wish bad things on an individual at the company", and an attempt to tar all critics as being like these examples. Usually in combination with calling the reaction overblown, which is I guess why I'm very defensive on this thread specifically.
Certhas 6y ago
Hey I am not saying people weren't perfectly in line to ask about this and raise the point/push for only releasing at feature parity. That's not what I recall the tone was though, heck even in this thread people are claiming that Mozilla wanted to eliminate extensions altogether. Mozilla employees also responded to these HN threads straight away clarifying that extensions were being looked at closely with intent (albeit no commitment) to have feature parity at launch. As I said, given the history they should have had a clear communication of what they intend to do about extensions when they premiered Firefox Preview. Of course that also implies that they would have had to have a clear idea of what they are going to do about them at the time.