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This article doesn't do good job describing the gory details. In AI/ML research, this is so unpleasantly prominent that its nauseating. How does workshop speake
by sytelus 6y ago
This article doesn't do good job describing the gory details. In AI/ML research, this is so unpleasantly prominent that its nauseating. How does workshop speakers at top conferences gets selected? How does keynote speakers get selected? Whoes workshop proposals goes through? Who gets to be area chair? Why are there 18 people listed as authors when almost 100% of work was done by one student? I call it favor economy. You invite X to be your workshop speaker and then you get to be speaker in X's workshop. You add X as co-author in your paper even if X has no real contribution and then expect that X does same for you. This leads to people bragging about having 16 papers in NeurIPS which indicates how deep there are in this favor economy. If you are unwilling to be participant in this favor economy, your citation count, number of papers, awards etc quickly becomes insignificant compared to those who are. The honesty and ethics are perhaps all time low in the history of modern scientific research.
- euix 6y agoPutting people on the author list who made no contributions to the paper is known as academic fraud. I am surprised this is allowed.
- naringas 6y agoit's only forbidden if you get caught?
- sytelus 6y ago1 student and 4+ "advisors" aren't uncommon these days. They would show up in meetings, put their attendance and claim their spots. So one can argue its not really "fraud".
- anonymousML123 6y agoIt's expected in academia. Even worse, I've seen some main contributors who wrote actual code might not even be included.
- anjc 6y ago> your citation count, number of papers, awards etc quickly becomes insignificant compared to those who are There are few metrics with which academia can judge how effective a researcher is. If you're not interested in getting as many papers/citations/awards in whatever way you can then you may be in the wrong game.
- xfs 6y agoIt's all in the game, yo.
- banads 6y ago>If you're not interested in getting as many papers/citations/awards in whatever way you can then you may be in the wrong game. Or rather it could be that the game itself is whats wrong, leading to a reproducibility crisis, fraud, group think, walled gardens and ivory towers.