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This is really exciting. Every time I see something about Swift my thought process is "that looks like a lovely language but I don't build iOS/macOS apps, oh we

by _bxg1 6y ago

This is really exciting. Every time I see something about Swift my thought process is "that looks like a lovely language but I don't build iOS/macOS apps, oh well". Maybe now I'll give it a real go. Fun fact: Graydon Hoare, the original inventor of Rust, now works at Apple on Swift.

steveklabnik 6y ago
(He doesn’t anymore, but he did)
- _bxg1 6y ago
  Oh he doesn't? Didn't realize that
  - steveklabnik 6y ago
    Yep! I’m not sure what he’s doing today. We’ve had several folks go between the two teams, and they’re generally very friendly with each other!
    - _bxg1 6y ago
      Yes I certainly didn't mean it as a knock on Rust, but as a compliment to Swift
    - insulanian 6y ago
      > I’m not sure what he’s doing today. He seems to be back working on Stellar [1]. [1] https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commits?author=graydon https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commits?author=grayd...
kccqzy 6y ago
That's an outdated but sadly common perception. TensorFlow for example is pushing Swift pretty hard: https://www.tensorflow.org/swift/ https://www.tensorflow.org/swift/ Disclaimer: I work at Google but not on TensorFlow.
- _bxg1 6y ago
  I know it's had some mixed support for other platforms for a while, but it's hard to really invest time and effort into a language before you know it has official support.
- akhilcacharya 6y ago
  didn't all of the original authors of TF4S, including Chris Lattner, leave?
  - komuher 6y ago
    Yes they all did
    - person_of_color 6y ago
      All of them?? Bad blood
- iphone_elegance 6y ago
  Is tensoflow for swift even still a thing?
  - michaelbrave 6y ago
    Some of the first bits of research using it just started coming out last month
    - iphone_elegance 6y ago
      I should really start looking at it again
- pjmlp 6y ago
  I don't believe TF4Swift will go anywhere. Fortran, C++, Python and Julia drive the show and work with full tooling across UNIX flavours, Windows, macOS today.

by _bxg1 6y ago

steveklabnik 6y ago

(He doesn’t anymore, but he did)

_bxg1 6y ago
Oh he doesn't? Didn't realize that
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  Yep! I’m not sure what he’s doing today. We’ve had several folks go between the two teams, and they’re generally very friendly with each other!
  - _bxg1 6y ago
    Yes I certainly didn't mean it as a knock on Rust, but as a compliment to Swift
  - insulanian 6y ago
    > I’m not sure what he’s doing today. He seems to be back working on Stellar [1]. [1] https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commits?author=graydon https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commits?author=grayd...

kccqzy 6y ago

That's an outdated but sadly common perception. TensorFlow for example is pushing Swift pretty hard: https://www.tensorflow.org/swift/ https://www.tensorflow.org/swift/ Disclaimer: I work at Google but not on TensorFlow.

_bxg1 6y ago
I know it's had some mixed support for other platforms for a while, but it's hard to really invest time and effort into a language before you know it has official support.
akhilcacharya 6y ago
didn't all of the original authors of TF4S, including Chris Lattner, leave?
- komuher 6y ago
  Yes they all did
  - person_of_color 6y ago
    All of them?? Bad blood
iphone_elegance 6y ago
Is tensoflow for swift even still a thing?
- michaelbrave 6y ago
  Some of the first bits of research using it just started coming out last month
  - iphone_elegance 6y ago
    I should really start looking at it again
pjmlp 6y ago
I don't believe TF4Swift will go anywhere. Fortran, C++, Python and Julia drive the show and work with full tooling across UNIX flavours, Windows, macOS today.