4 ms·

The big tech co's have become politically active by infringing on people's freedom of speech, etc. You can argue they're private, but that doesn't really matte

The big tech co's have become politically active by infringing on people's freedom of speech, etc. You can argue they're private, but that doesn't really matter. The telcos are private, but they can't drop your connection if they don't like what you are talking about. They can't drop the account of an organization that agitates for things they disagree with. The big tech co's have made their bed, now they get to sleep in it.

triceratops 6y ago
> The telcos are private, but they can't drop your connection if they don't like what you are talking about With net neutrality gone, an ISP absolutely could do that.
- tomohawk 6y ago
  Can you cite even a single case where an ISP has cut off an organization's account because of the organization's politics? Even if you could, does that make it right that big tech companies are censoring people and organizations for their views?
  - int_19h 6y ago
    It's okay for them to do it, so long as they're not in a position of market dominance. At that point, it should be treated as abuse of said position.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    Is it wrong if I'm kicked out a private club for saying something that offended the other members? Is the club's management obligated to allow me to continue expressing myself on their property, to their members? Social media platforms and telcos operate at different layers of the stack. Even if something's acceptable at one layer, doesn't mean it's OK at another, because the consequences are different. If an ISP allows someone to express something offensive (i.e. legal, but strongly disagreeable to the majority) on their network, it doesn't affect their other customers directly - they won't know or care which ISP this person was using. If a social media platform allows posting something that most other users would find offensive, those other users will leave. And yet people are arguing for deregulating the first (anti-net-neutrality) and regulating the second. It seems backward to me. What you call "censoring" someone else might call "curation and removal of BS". The free market can decide whether it's too much or too little.

triceratops 6y ago

> The telcos are private, but they can't drop your connection if they don't like what you are talking about With net neutrality gone, an ISP absolutely could do that.

tomohawk 6y ago
Can you cite even a single case where an ISP has cut off an organization's account because of the organization's politics? Even if you could, does that make it right that big tech companies are censoring people and organizations for their views?
- int_19h 6y ago
  It's okay for them to do it, so long as they're not in a position of market dominance. At that point, it should be treated as abuse of said position.
- triceratops 6y ago
  Is it wrong if I'm kicked out a private club for saying something that offended the other members? Is the club's management obligated to allow me to continue expressing myself on their property, to their members? Social media platforms and telcos operate at different layers of the stack. Even if something's acceptable at one layer, doesn't mean it's OK at another, because the consequences are different. If an ISP allows someone to express something offensive (i.e. legal, but strongly disagreeable to the majority) on their network, it doesn't affect their other customers directly - they won't know or care which ISP this person was using. If a social media platform allows posting something that most other users would find offensive, those other users will leave. And yet people are arguing for deregulating the first (anti-net-neutrality) and regulating the second. It seems backward to me. What you call "censoring" someone else might call "curation and removal of BS". The free market can decide whether it's too much or too little.