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> Isn't another of the tenets of a justice system the right to face your accuser, not have someone Wizard of Oz behind the scenes bankrolling things because of

> Isn't another of the tenets of a justice system the right to face your accuser, not have someone Wizard of Oz behind the scenes bankrolling things because of their own vendetta? You communicated it better than I. I was somewhat horrified with the outcome because I (perhaps naively) had some belief that this tenet of the justice system had not yet been compromised. But the old adage that we have N justice systems for N wealth buckets (where N in {[rich, poor], [1%, 99%], ...}) seems to be true.

toasterlovin 6y ago
But this isn't a case of one party with financial means going up against another party without financial means.
- yowlingcat 6y ago
  Clearly, it wasn't enough. Denton's fortune, large was it was, paled in comparison to Thiel's by a factor of 100, in pure net worth terms, never mind the social capital. In my eyes, that made it especially noteworthy.
  - slg 6y ago
    Even Thiel himself admitted exactly this. He helped justify the bankrolling of Hogan's lawsuit by saying "single-digit millionaires" have no access to the legal system. The more money you have the more power you have. It isn't a binary rich/poor.
    - yowlingcat 6y ago
      It's true. It's ironic that he proved the rule by proving that double digit millionaires too can effectively be locked out of the legal system by those with greater financial might. After all, are you really justifying the illegitimacy of the system if all you accomplish is merely swapping the places of who is destroyed?
      - nwienert 6y ago
        So if I provide one example of a double digit millionaire beating a billionaire in a lawsuit will you take back this claim? We’d have to go to data then, do you have that data?
        yowlingcat 6y ago
        > So if I provide one example of a double digit millionaire beating a billionaire in a lawsuit will you take back this claim? I wouldn't take back the claim, but I would chuckle a bit. The plural of data is not necessarily a narrative. I would ask you to try again, this time without deliberately ignoring the thread and misreading it.
        nwienert 6y ago
        Yea, you’re the one with head in sand then.

toasterlovin 6y ago

But this isn't a case of one party with financial means going up against another party without financial means.

yowlingcat 6y ago
Clearly, it wasn't enough. Denton's fortune, large was it was, paled in comparison to Thiel's by a factor of 100, in pure net worth terms, never mind the social capital. In my eyes, that made it especially noteworthy.
- slg 6y ago
  Even Thiel himself admitted exactly this. He helped justify the bankrolling of Hogan's lawsuit by saying "single-digit millionaires" have no access to the legal system. The more money you have the more power you have. It isn't a binary rich/poor.
  - yowlingcat 6y ago
    It's true. It's ironic that he proved the rule by proving that double digit millionaires too can effectively be locked out of the legal system by those with greater financial might. After all, are you really justifying the illegitimacy of the system if all you accomplish is merely swapping the places of who is destroyed?
    - nwienert 6y ago
      So if I provide one example of a double digit millionaire beating a billionaire in a lawsuit will you take back this claim? We’d have to go to data then, do you have that data?
      - yowlingcat 6y ago
        > So if I provide one example of a double digit millionaire beating a billionaire in a lawsuit will you take back this claim? I wouldn't take back the claim, but I would chuckle a bit. The plural of data is not necessarily a narrative. I would ask you to try again, this time without deliberately ignoring the thread and misreading it.
        nwienert 6y ago
        Yea, you’re the one with head in sand then.