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> The South was afraid the North would enact tariffs on cotton, thus crippling the only significant product of the Southern economy - cotton. It was about tarif
by dntbnmpls 6y ago
> The South was afraid the North would enact tariffs on cotton, thus crippling the only significant product of the Southern economy - cotton. It was about tariffs on cotton. Not anything else.
So not free trade and you were completely wrong in your original comment.
> The reservations and Indian nations within the US suggests the former, not the latter.
Actually it doesn't. Nice little pathetic attempt at denying native genocide.
> They didn't give their conquered territories back. They installed puppet governments that obeyed the conquerors. Japan and Germany are not puppets of the US.
Actually Japan and Germany are puppets. As a matter of fact we installed the governments that they current have and they are firmly within our sphere of influence. Maybe this reality makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't align wtih your agenda, but once again, you don't get to dismiss reality just because you feel like it.
> "By 1650, hereditary enslavement based upon color, not upon religion, was a bitter reality in the older Catholic colonies of the New World."
Since the catholic world gave us capitalism, what's your point?
"Capitalism in its modern form can be traced to the emergence of agrarian capitalism and mercantilism in the early Renaissance, in city-states like Florence."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
> Also, the slave economy collapsed during the Civil War, while the northern free economy thrived.
What's your bizarre agenda? "Free economy"? Why are you being so sneaky and using weasel terminology? The "free economy" of protectionism and tariffs?
> The reason Lee was even at Gettysburg was because the Confederate army was shoeless and nearby Harrisburg had a shoe factory.
Yes, the shoe factory existed thanks to a non-free trade protectionist policy supported by the north.
To HN's credit, it's rare to come across such a dishonest and blatantly agenda driven comment. Even rarer to see one double down and continue to lie when confronted with facts and evidence.
- WalterBright 6y ago> Actually Japan and Germany are puppets. Sure they are. Merkel does whatever Trump tells her to. The German government is sending tens of billions of dollars to the US. I'll let the rest of your post speak for itself.
- dntbnmpls 6y ago> Sure they are. Merkel does whatever Trump tells her to. Merkel does what the US tells her to do. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/business/dealbook/china-aixtron-obama-cfius.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/business/dealbook/china-a... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/germany-said-to-block-company-purchase-by-chinese-for-first-time https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/germany-s... Go look up germany's problems with a major pipeline from russia because of american interests. https://www.dw.com/en/the-unclear-future-of-nord-stream-2-russias-controversial-gas-pipeline/a-52357665 https://www.dw.com/en/the-unclear-future-of-nord-stream-2-ru... Where american interests factor in, germany, japan and all the rest of our "allies" have to give way. Our troops aren't in germany, japan, etc just for show. > I'll let the rest of your post speak for itself. You mean the sourced factual debunking of your nonsense? Thanks for "letting it rest". Everything you wrote has been proven wrong and yet you stubbornly keep coming back. At least you must be embarrassed considering your replies have been shorter and shorter. I won't waste any more time here, but if you are going to push an agenda, at least get the simple facts right. How about knowing what you are actually talking about before making such ridiculous comment?
- WalterBright 6y ago> your replies have been shorter A piece of advice. It's a well-known "tell" that when people argue with nastiness, it's a cover for their points being weak. Additionally, reasonable people don't care to engage in discourse with rude people.