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Slightly offtopic but is there a reason why penis drawings are more common than vaginas. There aren't many datasets for vagina drawings from quick search. Noth

Slightly offtopic but is there a reason why penis drawings are more common than vaginas. There aren't many datasets for vagina drawings from quick search. Nothing much pops up on github either. I haven't seen many people draw them. Penis and boobs are common in school and online spaces. I observed this to be the same for both genders. What gives?

ajkjk 6y ago
They are somewhat more iconically shaped, since they have a very distinct silhouette? And thus easier to draw since you only need to approximate the shape. And easy to see all over the place since more things are distinctly shaped like them.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  This seems intuitively true but is there way to prove this? I am not sure if line complexity has to do with it. [0] looks more or less the same amount if you simplify. Of course with simplification, it's less observable or clear. 1. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRl0QINbWDMG7aG3805-HlA_oG9TKi13KqHk6dYY3fd31J9594o&usqp=CAU https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRl0Q... So I tried drawing both of them a few times, I think vaginas are harder to draw because they require to be more symmetric than a penis. It's more to do with how your wrist works while working in the opposite direction.
usr1106 6y ago
> Slightly offtopic but is there a reason why penis drawings are more common than vaginas. Because female sexual organs are a taboo in most countries. I just happened to read this article (sorry, in German only) https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/sex/klitoris-und-weibliche-lust-koenigin-des-kommens-kanzlerin-aller-orgasmen-a-5951701e-69f0-4dfc-a716-844b47262adc https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/sex/klitoris-und-weibliche... Like you, more than 70% of women don't even know that the thing you are referring to is called vulva, not vagina. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulva https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulva You draw a penis, not an urethra after all. Still there are differences from country to country. When I moved from Germany to Finland decades ago I wondered about a certain pattern of symbolic graffiti seen in many places. My girlfriend explained me that's a vagina. (With today's knowledge she meant vulva). I had never seen that symbol in Germany. But then Finland is the country where the most common swear word is cunt, even amongst 14 year old girls.
- kiplkipl 6y ago
  >You draw a penis, not an urethra after all. Typically a penis and testicles, going by this thread. But the title still says penis. A medical definition does not overrule a colloquial one.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  I expected this lol. I know the anatomical difference but in general what people refers to as vagina/pussy is vulva so I went with that. Pussy is often used in derogative way which is why people go with vagina. Thanks for sharing the article. It does seem like female reproductive organs being taboo is the main reason behind lack of their depiction.
- adrian_b 6y ago
  While "vulva" is now the correct medical term, initially it was also an euphemism, used as wrongly as some people use now "vagina". In the beginning, "vulva" was a synonym for "uterus" and its current meaning arose much later, because some began to use it in order to avoid the correct word "cunnus".
- clarry 6y ago
  As a Finn, I can confirm that people draw vulvas, although I don't know if they're more popular than dicks. The doodle is usually called kirkkovene ("church boat"). https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=kirkkovene&tbs=imgo:1 https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=kirkkovene&tbs=imgo... (Screenshot, in case Google doesn't give the right results for all users: https://i.imgur.com/HASrhyr.png https://i.imgur.com/HASrhyr.png)
DoreenMichele 6y ago
A woman can see her own breasts without aid of a mirror. She cannot see her vagina without some sort of aid. According to the works of Camille Paglia, the reason we have female strippers but male strippers aren't so much a thing (and she was writing some time ago, so times have changed somewhat) is because after a female stripper has taken everything off, her genitals remain hidden. Not so with a man. There are some inherent challenges to depicting the vagina. It's hard to put on display "normally." It isn't on display merely because you are standing there naked like with a penis. /2 cents
remedan 6y ago
In Czechia, vagina drawings are somewhat common. I was surprised to learn this is not the case in most of the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%AD%C4%8Da https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%AD%C4%8Da

ajkjk 6y ago

They are somewhat more iconically shaped, since they have a very distinct silhouette? And thus easier to draw since you only need to approximate the shape. And easy to see all over the place since more things are distinctly shaped like them.

searchableguy 6y ago
This seems intuitively true but is there way to prove this? I am not sure if line complexity has to do with it. [0] looks more or less the same amount if you simplify. Of course with simplification, it's less observable or clear. 1. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRl0QINbWDMG7aG3805-HlA_oG9TKi13KqHk6dYY3fd31J9594o&usqp=CAU https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRl0Q... So I tried drawing both of them a few times, I think vaginas are harder to draw because they require to be more symmetric than a penis. It's more to do with how your wrist works while working in the opposite direction.

usr1106 6y ago

> Slightly offtopic but is there a reason why penis drawings are more common than vaginas. Because female sexual organs are a taboo in most countries. I just happened to read this article (sorry, in German only) https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/sex/klitoris-und-weibliche-lust-koenigin-des-kommens-kanzlerin-aller-orgasmen-a-5951701e-69f0-4dfc-a716-844b47262adc https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/sex/klitoris-und-weibliche... Like you, more than 70% of women don't even know that the thing you are referring to is called vulva, not vagina. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulva https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulva You draw a penis, not an urethra after all. Still there are differences from country to country. When I moved from Germany to Finland decades ago I wondered about a certain pattern of symbolic graffiti seen in many places. My girlfriend explained me that's a vagina. (With today's knowledge she meant vulva). I had never seen that symbol in Germany. But then Finland is the country where the most common swear word is cunt, even amongst 14 year old girls.

kiplkipl 6y ago
>You draw a penis, not an urethra after all. Typically a penis and testicles, going by this thread. But the title still says penis. A medical definition does not overrule a colloquial one.
searchableguy 6y ago
I expected this lol. I know the anatomical difference but in general what people refers to as vagina/pussy is vulva so I went with that. Pussy is often used in derogative way which is why people go with vagina. Thanks for sharing the article. It does seem like female reproductive organs being taboo is the main reason behind lack of their depiction.
adrian_b 6y ago
While "vulva" is now the correct medical term, initially it was also an euphemism, used as wrongly as some people use now "vagina". In the beginning, "vulva" was a synonym for "uterus" and its current meaning arose much later, because some began to use it in order to avoid the correct word "cunnus".
clarry 6y ago
As a Finn, I can confirm that people draw vulvas, although I don't know if they're more popular than dicks. The doodle is usually called kirkkovene ("church boat"). https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=kirkkovene&tbs=imgo:1 https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=kirkkovene&tbs=imgo... (Screenshot, in case Google doesn't give the right results for all users: https://i.imgur.com/HASrhyr.png https://i.imgur.com/HASrhyr.png)

DoreenMichele 6y ago

A woman can see her own breasts without aid of a mirror. She cannot see her vagina without some sort of aid. According to the works of Camille Paglia, the reason we have female strippers but male strippers aren't so much a thing (and she was writing some time ago, so times have changed somewhat) is because after a female stripper has taken everything off, her genitals remain hidden. Not so with a man. There are some inherent challenges to depicting the vagina. It's hard to put on display "normally." It isn't on display merely because you are standing there naked like with a penis. /2 cents

remedan 6y ago

In Czechia, vagina drawings are somewhat common. I was surprised to learn this is not the case in most of the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%AD%C4%8Da https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%AD%C4%8Da