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I bet this will induce deplatformization. You do not react the same way if you are a platform (in which case you just deactivate or delete the contents as soon

I bet this will induce deplatformization. You do not react the same way if you are a platform (in which case you just deactivate or delete the contents as soon as it is flagged by anyone), or if you are yourself responsible for your website (in which case you will fight to defend that you don't need to take down the contents). My big question is: is AWS, or any other cloud-based hosting system, considered a platform under this law? Just asking because, even if I am ready to be 100% independent from platforms when they mean FB or Youtube, I certainly am not ready to get rid of cloud hosting...

akersten 6y ago
> My big question is: is AWS, or any other cloud-based hosting system, considered a platform under this law? They'll probably go after the first point of contact they can find in the chain hosting the text they don't like. Facebook would clearly be hit with the demand before Level3 would. A peer-to-peer message board that is mostly decentralized, but has a homebase in AWS to coordinate the swarms? Yeah, probably AWS is going to be told to do what they can to take it down. To soapbox for a second - this kind of policing is ridiculous on its face from my perspective as a US citizen. (And that's coming from someone who has no issue with companies themselves moderating their websites, I think that's a natural solution to cultivate the online community that the site operators desire. But the government compelling them to do so is beyond the pale.)
- henearkr 6y ago
  Uh... okay, then, if you are truly self-hosted (meaning, there is a big whirring, heating server in your living room), then would your internet provider company be compelled by the law to cancel your subscription? Because, this is only the continuing of this logic...
  - akersten 6y ago
    Probably. Or they'd subpoena your ISP and send you a letter to take it down if they could identify you personally. But who knows. Dumb laws like these are rarely thought out to a meaningful degree of detail.
guggle 6y ago
> I bet this will induce deplatformization. And that would the return of the web as I liked it. One can dream.

akersten 6y ago

> My big question is: is AWS, or any other cloud-based hosting system, considered a platform under this law? They'll probably go after the first point of contact they can find in the chain hosting the text they don't like. Facebook would clearly be hit with the demand before Level3 would. A peer-to-peer message board that is mostly decentralized, but has a homebase in AWS to coordinate the swarms? Yeah, probably AWS is going to be told to do what they can to take it down. To soapbox for a second - this kind of policing is ridiculous on its face from my perspective as a US citizen. (And that's coming from someone who has no issue with companies themselves moderating their websites, I think that's a natural solution to cultivate the online community that the site operators desire. But the government compelling them to do so is beyond the pale.)

henearkr 6y ago
Uh... okay, then, if you are truly self-hosted (meaning, there is a big whirring, heating server in your living room), then would your internet provider company be compelled by the law to cancel your subscription? Because, this is only the continuing of this logic...
- akersten 6y ago
  Probably. Or they'd subpoena your ISP and send you a letter to take it down if they could identify you personally. But who knows. Dumb laws like these are rarely thought out to a meaningful degree of detail.

guggle 6y ago

> I bet this will induce deplatformization. And that would the return of the web as I liked it. One can dream.