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Being made fun of for anything that people biologically cannot change is hate speech. It’s not some complicated quagmire of laws you are trying to make it out t

Being made fun of for anything that people biologically cannot change is hate speech. It’s not some complicated quagmire of laws you are trying to make it out to be.

sneak 6y ago
If only content moderation and human expression were that simple. Alas, it is not to be. If you read it carefully, I just “made fun of” people who are unimaginative. Is that an innate trait? Should my content be censored? Should a comment on a video of a tall person that says “how’s the weather up there?” be censored using criminal liability? This criminalizes even hosting the discussion about what beliefs along these lines are or are not correct. Someone posts about their (mistaken) beliefs, in essence asking about a disproven theory correlating race and IQ. Other people correct them, educating them as well as any other lurkers. Should the sysadmins go to jail for not deleting the entire thread? Being wrong on the internet should not be illegal. There is absolutely not a bright line, and it is somewhat naive or perhaps even dishonest to claim otherwise.
- im3w1l 6y ago
  > If you read it carefully, I just “made fun of” people who are unimaginative. Is that an innate trait? Should my content be censored? Given that reddit is banning the word "retard"... the answer may soon be "yes, it should".
thoraway1010 6y ago
We had a recent example along these lines with certain sports and records where there were some hate speech references to a potential biological basis for differences (men vs women and masters age vs non masters).
t-writescode 6y ago
24 hours means it’s going to need some sort of automation for Reddit or any popular news website’s comment section. So what is hate speech in a way that can be automated? Will that automated approach squelch valuable speech too? What if a certain disease impacts an ethnicity more than others? Is ‘black people tend to Sickle Cell more often than white people’ hate speech? Could a moderator decide that, given the fines? Could automation? This is where a very loud problem is and this is the complexity you’re claiming is ‘simple’.

Being made fun of for anything that people biologically cannot change is hate speech. It’s not some complicated quagmire of laws you are trying to make it out to be.

sneak 6y ago

If only content moderation and human expression were that simple. Alas, it is not to be. If you read it carefully, I just “made fun of” people who are unimaginative. Is that an innate trait? Should my content be censored? Should a comment on a video of a tall person that says “how’s the weather up there?” be censored using criminal liability? This criminalizes even hosting the discussion about what beliefs along these lines are or are not correct. Someone posts about their (mistaken) beliefs, in essence asking about a disproven theory correlating race and IQ. Other people correct them, educating them as well as any other lurkers. Should the sysadmins go to jail for not deleting the entire thread? Being wrong on the internet should not be illegal. There is absolutely not a bright line, and it is somewhat naive or perhaps even dishonest to claim otherwise.

im3w1l 6y ago
> If you read it carefully, I just “made fun of” people who are unimaginative. Is that an innate trait? Should my content be censored? Given that reddit is banning the word "retard"... the answer may soon be "yes, it should".

thoraway1010 6y ago

We had a recent example along these lines with certain sports and records where there were some hate speech references to a potential biological basis for differences (men vs women and masters age vs non masters).

t-writescode 6y ago

24 hours means it’s going to need some sort of automation for Reddit or any popular news website’s comment section. So what is hate speech in a way that can be automated? Will that automated approach squelch valuable speech too? What if a certain disease impacts an ethnicity more than others? Is ‘black people tend to Sickle Cell more often than white people’ hate speech? Could a moderator decide that, given the fines? Could automation? This is where a very loud problem is and this is the complexity you’re claiming is ‘simple’.