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> I don't think self-driving cars are realistic at all. How do you explain actual self-driving cars on the road? I find this attitude confusing as it seems to
by MiroF 6y ago
> I don't think self-driving cars are realistic at all.
How do you explain actual self-driving cars on the road? I find this attitude confusing as it seems to not jive with empirical reality.
I agree that we should focus on mass transit, but Waymo drives hundreds/thousands of miles without driver intervention.
- anyfoo 6y agoMore important than simple probability is the “expectancy value”, which is roughly spoken (and cumulatively) the probability multiplied by the effect when the probability comes to pass.
- MiroF 6y agoI'm confused what this comment is saying - are you just trying to say that someone getting killed by a car is really really bad? If so, I agree. I've never heard of "expectancy value" in my life - it's definitely not a standard probability term.
- anyfoo 6y agoI just translated the German term Erwartungswert wrong. The English term seems to be “expected value”, and it’s basic enough that you learn it in high school.
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- djsumdog 6y agoThere aren't any self driving cars on the road that don't have a safety driver, and the ones that are out there get confused all the time. The Uber one had a software dev turn off the lidar sensor to test the computer vision at night and it ended up killing a woman crossing the street.
- MiroF 6y agoWaymo/Cruise and Uber aren't even in the same class and as I said, Waymo/Cruise cars go thousands of miles without driver intervention. Waymo cars go 11,000+ miles without driver intervention on average. I would encourage doing actual research into this subject, rather than relying on your gut or the news articles you read.
- redis_mlc 6y agoSpare me. Most self-driving is done in warm climates, in a circle. These companies are amassing thousands of empty miles on the same streets every day to impress people who don't know any better. I lived on a branch of the main Google circuit, and often they were the only traffic for most of the day. Even saw three Google vehicles in a line, but two were more common. What's the value of "self-driving" with no weather, traffic or route variation? PR and regulatory filing stats.
- staticassertion 6y agoI don't understand. There are self driving cars in SF. I saw one today. It is/ was raining. There was a driver, but I'm fairly certain that the drivers are not actively driving but are legally required to be there.
- beefalo 6y agoLast time cruise made a report about disengagements (where the safety driver had to take over) it was one every 5000 miles driven. That's 1 crash the car was prevented from every 5000 miles. Humans crash once per 70000 miles.
- Lewton 6y ago> That's 1 crash the car was prevented from every 5000 miles. What? That's not at all what disengagements mean
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