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Does it support private clustering and encryption? My use case is to have shared volumes between servers, laptops but without all the networking hassle (VPNs, o

Does it support private clustering and encryption? My use case is to have shared volumes between servers, laptops but without all the networking hassle (VPNs, opening firewalls).

mafintosh 6y ago
It uses Noise to encrypt all transport connections and using the api you can whitelist which peers (by their public key) you want to replicate with. This API is not yet exposed through the daemon but it’s in the modules. Hyperdrives also have a built in capability system where you have to know the public key of the drive to download it from a peer, so if you only share the key with yourself no one else can access it. Finally using the modules you can build almost any kind of networking you’d imagine but that part requires more work on your side obviously.
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hinkley 6y ago
My go-to example for 'private cloud' (which as soon as we hit the Trough of Disillusionment on this Hype Train, we will all be talking about) is having a set of people in your social or family group maintaining a file share for your semi-private photos and videos. You don't have to worry about a flood or tornado taking out all the photos of first birthdays, or Grandma when she was younger than you are now, and you also don't broadcast family dynamics, whereabouts (people have been robbed when social media made it clear they were not at home) or pictures of minors. You, your uncle who Moved to the City and your cousin by marriage who wants to be a game designer all set up a file server and share the photos (your cousin is gonna throttle traffic while he's playing CoD or Dota of course, which it turns out he does all the time but at least he's an extra backup copy). I don't know how you keep that one relative from uploading funny things they found on the internet that keep trying to install spyware or back doors though, but I suppose you'd have that problem now.
- beckingz 6y ago
  Do you have any good solutions for this exact use case yet?
  - imhoguy 6y ago
    Checked Tahoe-LAFS, Perkeep, but they are too low level. Haven't tried Resilio Connect yet, although I would prefer something open-sourced. I think we have all the tech needed already (WebRTC, DHT, NAT hole punching, decades of p2p, encryption, onion security, StorJ/Filecoin) etc but what is lacking is dead simple UX and wide support of operating systems - Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, Linux (Raspberry, Synology, cheap VPS backup)
    - newman314 6y ago
      I use Resilio Sync to sync my 1Password. It mostly works but is clunky in that the handling of identities is clumsy (unable to cleanly remove) as well as having less than stellar UX for adding/removing folders. Still looking for the perfect Dropbox-like experience but without the cloud sync piece. If only syncthing had decent mobile apps...
    - hinkley 6y ago
      Yeah there are no turnkey solutions that I'm aware of. Which is why every time there's a thread like this I come to see what the rumpus is. I'm still waiting for a 'Drobo' like device without the proprietary physical layout. A light or dial goes into orange territory, you head to Best Buy or Amazon and buy the biggest drive that doesn't give you sticker shock, you push a button, out pops your worst drive and in goes the new one. Some lights flicker for a while and then go green. I thought ZFS would have given us almost everything but the hardware ten years ago, but it turned out they oversold a few of the features back then, and then Larry happened. Custom hardware is too expensive for small run consumer hardware, and Apple might have gotten into that space but never did. I wonder how many PCIe lanes you could shoehorn onto a Pi clone...
      - mceachen 6y ago

Does it support private clustering and encryption? My use case is to have shared volumes between servers, laptops but without all the networking hassle (VPNs, opening firewalls).

mafintosh 6y ago

It uses Noise to encrypt all transport connections and using the api you can whitelist which peers (by their public key) you want to replicate with. This API is not yet exposed through the daemon but it’s in the modules. Hyperdrives also have a built in capability system where you have to know the public key of the drive to download it from a peer, so if you only share the key with yourself no one else can access it. Finally using the modules you can build almost any kind of networking you’d imagine but that part requires more work on your side obviously.

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hinkley 6y ago

My go-to example for 'private cloud' (which as soon as we hit the Trough of Disillusionment on this Hype Train, we will all be talking about) is having a set of people in your social or family group maintaining a file share for your semi-private photos and videos. You don't have to worry about a flood or tornado taking out all the photos of first birthdays, or Grandma when she was younger than you are now, and you also don't broadcast family dynamics, whereabouts (people have been robbed when social media made it clear they were not at home) or pictures of minors. You, your uncle who Moved to the City and your cousin by marriage who wants to be a game designer all set up a file server and share the photos (your cousin is gonna throttle traffic while he's playing CoD or Dota of course, which it turns out he does all the time but at least he's an extra backup copy). I don't know how you keep that one relative from uploading funny things they found on the internet that keep trying to install spyware or back doors though, but I suppose you'd have that problem now.

beckingz 6y ago
Do you have any good solutions for this exact use case yet?
- imhoguy 6y ago
  Checked Tahoe-LAFS, Perkeep, but they are too low level. Haven't tried Resilio Connect yet, although I would prefer something open-sourced. I think we have all the tech needed already (WebRTC, DHT, NAT hole punching, decades of p2p, encryption, onion security, StorJ/Filecoin) etc but what is lacking is dead simple UX and wide support of operating systems - Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, Linux (Raspberry, Synology, cheap VPS backup)
  - newman314 6y ago
    I use Resilio Sync to sync my 1Password. It mostly works but is clunky in that the handling of identities is clumsy (unable to cleanly remove) as well as having less than stellar UX for adding/removing folders. Still looking for the perfect Dropbox-like experience but without the cloud sync piece. If only syncthing had decent mobile apps...
  - hinkley 6y ago
    Yeah there are no turnkey solutions that I'm aware of. Which is why every time there's a thread like this I come to see what the rumpus is. I'm still waiting for a 'Drobo' like device without the proprietary physical layout. A light or dial goes into orange territory, you head to Best Buy or Amazon and buy the biggest drive that doesn't give you sticker shock, you push a button, out pops your worst drive and in goes the new one. Some lights flicker for a while and then go green. I thought ZFS would have given us almost everything but the hardware ten years ago, but it turned out they oversold a few of the features back then, and then Larry happened. Custom hardware is too expensive for small run consumer hardware, and Apple might have gotten into that space but never did. I wonder how many PCIe lanes you could shoehorn onto a Pi clone...
    - mceachen 6y ago