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Join Chrome Extension in Jeopardy – Google Won’t Tell Me Why – Tasker and Join

77 points by hadrien01 6y ago

hadrien01 6y ago
Same problem as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 The conversation between Google and the developer is infuriating
egfx 6y ago
This seems like a good way of promoting your extension nowadays. It’s no big deal. I got this message too for https://2fb.me https://2fb.me all you have to do is go into the privacy tab and list all the reasons why your issuing the permission as in what problem it’s meant to solve. My message stated something about not future proofing. I just resubmitted it.
- fieryscribe 6y ago
  If that's all that needs to be done, Google should update their boilerplate responses to include that. Right now, for multiple developers, they're appearing to be obtuse. For Google, it just adds to their reputation as being robotic and unfriendly, and it's gaining traction.
  - egfx 6y ago
    Well basically I agree. I even tweeted about it https://twitter.com/chamILYAn/status/1215680803608285184 https://twitter.com/chamILYAn/status/1215680803608285184 earlier this year. The situation is they are being robotic. Iv'e always thought the last thing anyone should automate is support. Maybe a company the size of Google could do it but version 1 isn't working. It's not quite completely automated. I believe they have someone behind the response clicking on a selection of a set of possibilities and there isn't a way to turn it off.
benbristow 6y ago
Site been Hacker News'd?
garazy 6y ago
I had this too for my extension - as mentioned there’s a security explanation tab now on the developer dashboard. I also removed any http requirements and made then https and stopped using external scripts/css hopefully enough - annoying their messaging is so vague and menacing.
gempir 6y ago
Archive link, since the site seems to be overburdened. http://web.archive.org/web/20200514182732/https://joaoapps.com/join-chrome-extension-in-jeopardy-google-wont-tell-me-why/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200514182732/https://joaoapps.c...
emilfihlman 6y ago
This is super infuriating. There should be some regulation regarding platforms and access on them if you are big enough.
tony-allan 6y ago
Similar story published around the same time as this one... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874) https://blog.pushbullet.com/2020/05/13/lets-guess-what-google-requires-in-14-days-or-they-kill-our-extension/ https://blog.pushbullet.com/2020/05/13/lets-guess-what-googl...
jhot 6y ago
For any Android users that don't already, I highly recommend either Join or Pushbullet even if just simply used for clipboard sync. The ability to send files and mirror your notifications can be handy but once you have clipboard sync it's hard to go back.
- paulryanrogers 6y ago
  Clipboard sync would double attack surface if secrets are ever copied.
- SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
  KDE Connect[1] is great if you're on Linux (KDE has it built in, Gnome has GSConnect which implements it, early releases are available for Windows and Mac). File sharing, notification sync, clipboard sync, remote media controls for the PC, use PC as a keyboard for the phone, ring the phone, etc. [1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
- m-p-3 6y ago
  I stopped using Pushbullet as I considered the price somewhat high for my use case and switched to Join several years ago, but then I also switched back to Firefox. Unfortunately, Join doesn't support Firefox for many things like the Universal Clipboard sync. I miss that app so much, but I'm staying away from Chrome as much as possible.
drcongo 6y ago
Why is this site asking for permission to send me notifications? I definitely don't trust the Chrome Extension now.
- m-p-3 6y ago
  Maybe because you can use Join and most of its features directly through its website? https://joaoapps.com/join/web/ https://joaoapps.com/join/web/
GioM 6y ago
Looks like some similar functionality to pushbullet... message syncing from Chrome to Android. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is preparing to roll out a message sync service of their own in the next few months.

77 points by hadrien01 6y ago

Same problem as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 The conversation between Google and the developer is infuriating

egfx 6y ago

This seems like a good way of promoting your extension nowadays. It’s no big deal. I got this message too for https://2fb.me https://2fb.me all you have to do is go into the privacy tab and list all the reasons why your issuing the permission as in what problem it’s meant to solve. My message stated something about not future proofing. I just resubmitted it.

fieryscribe 6y ago
If that's all that needs to be done, Google should update their boilerplate responses to include that. Right now, for multiple developers, they're appearing to be obtuse. For Google, it just adds to their reputation as being robotic and unfriendly, and it's gaining traction.
- egfx 6y ago
  Well basically I agree. I even tweeted about it https://twitter.com/chamILYAn/status/1215680803608285184 https://twitter.com/chamILYAn/status/1215680803608285184 earlier this year. The situation is they are being robotic. Iv'e always thought the last thing anyone should automate is support. Maybe a company the size of Google could do it but version 1 isn't working. It's not quite completely automated. I believe they have someone behind the response clicking on a selection of a set of possibilities and there isn't a way to turn it off.

benbristow 6y ago

Site been Hacker News'd?

garazy 6y ago

I had this too for my extension - as mentioned there’s a security explanation tab now on the developer dashboard. I also removed any http requirements and made then https and stopped using external scripts/css hopefully enough - annoying their messaging is so vague and menacing.

gempir 6y ago

Archive link, since the site seems to be overburdened. http://web.archive.org/web/20200514182732/https://joaoapps.com/join-chrome-extension-in-jeopardy-google-wont-tell-me-why/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200514182732/https://joaoapps.c...

emilfihlman 6y ago

This is super infuriating. There should be some regulation regarding platforms and access on them if you are big enough.

tony-allan 6y ago

Similar story published around the same time as this one... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874) https://blog.pushbullet.com/2020/05/13/lets-guess-what-google-requires-in-14-days-or-they-kill-our-extension/ https://blog.pushbullet.com/2020/05/13/lets-guess-what-googl...

jhot 6y ago

For any Android users that don't already, I highly recommend either Join or Pushbullet even if just simply used for clipboard sync. The ability to send files and mirror your notifications can be handy but once you have clipboard sync it's hard to go back.

paulryanrogers 6y ago
Clipboard sync would double attack surface if secrets are ever copied.
SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
KDE Connect[1] is great if you're on Linux (KDE has it built in, Gnome has GSConnect which implements it, early releases are available for Windows and Mac). File sharing, notification sync, clipboard sync, remote media controls for the PC, use PC as a keyboard for the phone, ring the phone, etc. [1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
m-p-3 6y ago
I stopped using Pushbullet as I considered the price somewhat high for my use case and switched to Join several years ago, but then I also switched back to Firefox. Unfortunately, Join doesn't support Firefox for many things like the Universal Clipboard sync. I miss that app so much, but I'm staying away from Chrome as much as possible.

drcongo 6y ago

Why is this site asking for permission to send me notifications? I definitely don't trust the Chrome Extension now.

m-p-3 6y ago
Maybe because you can use Join and most of its features directly through its website? https://joaoapps.com/join/web/ https://joaoapps.com/join/web/

GioM 6y ago

Looks like some similar functionality to pushbullet... message syncing from Chrome to Android. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is preparing to roll out a message sync service of their own in the next few months.