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This article is pretty low quality. The claim that the new million mile battery technology is coming to the China Model 3 first is not supported by a source an

This article is pretty low quality. The claim that the new million mile battery technology is coming to the China Model 3 first is not supported by a source and contrary to what people who follow this stuff closely have been saying. The partnership with CATL is rumored to be for providing Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) cells for made in china Model 3 & Y. The million mile battery technology is rumored to be a combination of technologies that Tesla will use to manufacture batteries themselves w/o a partner. The million mile battery will probably be reserved for their higher end models in the near term while they continue to use Panasonic and CATL for some time while they ramp up production of their own cells. The best source for info on all this that I've found is YouTube channels like Hyperchange [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-yc-lVExw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-yc-lVExw

Animats 6y ago
This article is pretty low quality. Yes. First, who's doing this? It sounds like Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd in Ningde, Fujian Province, is providing the batteries. But there's no press release from them.[1] Also, their stock went down a bit today, CATL is the world's largest lithium battery manufacturer. They produce about 40GWh of battery capacity a year, compared to Tesla's 35GWh or so. CATL has been roughly doubling production each year for the last few years. Their output is not exclusive to Tesla. They've mostly targeted China and European car manufacturers. They're building a huge battery plant, bigger than Tesla's "gigafactory", in Germany.[2] If this is real, it's all about CATL. [1] https://www.catlbattery.com/en/web/index.php/news/lists https://www.catlbattery.com/en/web/index.php/news/lists [2] https://www.electrive.com/2019/02/04/catl-plans-up-100-gwh-battery-factory-in-germany/ https://www.electrive.com/2019/02/04/catl-plans-up-100-gwh-b...
- pstrateman 6y ago
  History suggests taking Chinese companies promises of building factories in western countries with a massive grain of salt.
  - greglindahl 6y ago
    If you read [2] you can see they're predicting 2025. Many such predictions in the past have come and gone.
cwhiz 6y ago
TheVerge is sourcing Reuters but Reuters does not name their source, either. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exclusive/exclusive-teslas-secret-batteries-aim-to-rework-the-math-for-electric-cars-and-the-grid-idUSKBN22Q1WC https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exc...

Animats 6y ago

This article is pretty low quality. Yes. First, who's doing this? It sounds like Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd in Ningde, Fujian Province, is providing the batteries. But there's no press release from them.[1] Also, their stock went down a bit today, CATL is the world's largest lithium battery manufacturer. They produce about 40GWh of battery capacity a year, compared to Tesla's 35GWh or so. CATL has been roughly doubling production each year for the last few years. Their output is not exclusive to Tesla. They've mostly targeted China and European car manufacturers. They're building a huge battery plant, bigger than Tesla's "gigafactory", in Germany.[2] If this is real, it's all about CATL. [1] https://www.catlbattery.com/en/web/index.php/news/lists https://www.catlbattery.com/en/web/index.php/news/lists [2] https://www.electrive.com/2019/02/04/catl-plans-up-100-gwh-battery-factory-in-germany/ https://www.electrive.com/2019/02/04/catl-plans-up-100-gwh-b...

pstrateman 6y ago
History suggests taking Chinese companies promises of building factories in western countries with a massive grain of salt.
- greglindahl 6y ago
  If you read [2] you can see they're predicting 2025. Many such predictions in the past have come and gone.

cwhiz 6y ago

TheVerge is sourcing Reuters but Reuters does not name their source, either. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exclusive/exclusive-teslas-secret-batteries-aim-to-rework-the-math-for-electric-cars-and-the-grid-idUSKBN22Q1WC https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exc...