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This is an excellent summary, and I fully agree with it. As a modest addition: - In many important cases, there is no fact, just differing viewpoints and opini

This is an excellent summary, and I fully agree with it. As a modest addition: - In many important cases, there is no fact, just differing viewpoints and opinions. One man's terrorist is another one's freedom fighter. Violent insurgency for one, legitimate fight for liberty and justice for the other. In fact, reasonable people will even disagree on whether in some topic there are facts or only opinions, let alone about their truth value.

olivermarks 6y ago
I think a better analogy is 'one man's investigative journalist is another man's conspiracy theorist'. We don't need #bigTech telling us which is which. Most of us can figure out who is dealing with real facts, events which have happened etc. The current crackdown on free speech is the equivalent to digital book burning. Free choice and free speech was ultimately reinstated after the european events during the 1930's.
protonfish 6y ago
If you honestly believe there is no objective truth, then there is no value in anything you say. Please stop posting anything ever again.
- new2628 6y ago
  Apart from the aggressive nature of your comment, indeed, in most areas of interests to humans there is no objective truth or it is not as interesting as the motivations and interests of the involved parties.
  - protonfish 6y ago
    According to your own beliefs, your statement above can't be true. But one thing about it is certain: It is not objective interesting to me in the slightest.
evan_ 6y ago
This is absurd. There is an objective reality and things actually do happen. You can observe, record, and measure these things. Whether or not we say someone is a terrorist or a freedom fighter doesn't change the fact that they e.g. drove a truck bomb into a government building.
- new2628 6y ago
  Yes, "they drove the truck ..." may be a fact, but why they did it, what they wanted to achieve with it, what effect it actually had, are opinion-based, and are far more interesting than the underlying objective fact. Otherwise, you could report the JFK assassination by focusing on the weather that day and the tire pressure of his car, and the angle in which sunlight reflected on the windshield.

olivermarks 6y ago

I think a better analogy is 'one man's investigative journalist is another man's conspiracy theorist'. We don't need #bigTech telling us which is which. Most of us can figure out who is dealing with real facts, events which have happened etc. The current crackdown on free speech is the equivalent to digital book burning. Free choice and free speech was ultimately reinstated after the european events during the 1930's.

protonfish 6y ago

If you honestly believe there is no objective truth, then there is no value in anything you say. Please stop posting anything ever again.

new2628 6y ago
Apart from the aggressive nature of your comment, indeed, in most areas of interests to humans there is no objective truth or it is not as interesting as the motivations and interests of the involved parties.
- protonfish 6y ago
  According to your own beliefs, your statement above can't be true. But one thing about it is certain: It is not objective interesting to me in the slightest.

evan_ 6y ago

This is absurd. There is an objective reality and things actually do happen. You can observe, record, and measure these things. Whether or not we say someone is a terrorist or a freedom fighter doesn't change the fact that they e.g. drove a truck bomb into a government building.

new2628 6y ago
Yes, "they drove the truck ..." may be a fact, but why they did it, what they wanted to achieve with it, what effect it actually had, are opinion-based, and are far more interesting than the underlying objective fact. Otherwise, you could report the JFK assassination by focusing on the weather that day and the tire pressure of his car, and the angle in which sunlight reflected on the windshield.