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That was kind of them. The one time I actually got let go from a programming job was when the company shut down suddenly: I showed up Monday morning and found

That was kind of them. The one time I actually got let go from a programming job was when the company shut down suddenly: I showed up Monday morning and found out that there was an all-hands conference call at 9 AM. Everybody in our office dialed into it and it was a recorded message that the company had shut down and we were all unemployed effective immediately.

mauvehaus 7y ago
Yeah, it's the first I've seen or heard about that happening. I suspect the company wanted to keep some of the people, but greatly underestimated how little anybody was interested in working at headquarters.
dredmorbius 7y ago
In some states, subject to some limitations, that is illegal. E.g., California's WARN layoff notice requirements: Per Chapter 4, Part 4, Sections 1400-1408 of the Labor Code, WARN protects employees, their families, and communities by requiring that employers give a 60-day notice to the affected employees and both state and local representatives prior to a plant closing or mass layoff. Advance notice provides employees and their families time to transition and adjust to the prospective loss of employment, time to seek alternative jobs and, if necessary, time to obtain skills training or retraining to successfully compete in the job market. For more information, visit WARN Frequently Asked Questions. ... https://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WAR...
- jdsully 7y ago
  Are you sure that still applies if the company is bankrupt? Even if it does how are they supposed to comply when there is no money.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    I don't know, hence my "subject to some limitations" weasel. My principle point was to make known that immediate layoffs without notice or compensation are not something all employees are required to immediately and unconditionally accept. Know and assert your rights. Searching "warn notice layoffs bankruptcy" gives some additional information. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=warn+notice+layoffs+bankruptcy&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=warn+notice+layoffs+bankruptcy&ia=... A bankrupt firm virtually always has assets. The question is how these are distributed amongst creditors. Inclusive of employees.
  - oceanghost 7y ago
    I believe it does. In the case of California, there is an exception for "unforeseeable circumstances." Bankruptcy is usually very predictable. The law doesn't mean you can't go bankrupt; you just have to give people warning. The fact is the MO of most companies is to deny anything is wrong right up until the moment everyone gets fired. One needs look no further than the Telltale games saga.

mauvehaus 7y ago

Yeah, it's the first I've seen or heard about that happening. I suspect the company wanted to keep some of the people, but greatly underestimated how little anybody was interested in working at headquarters.

dredmorbius 7y ago

In some states, subject to some limitations, that is illegal. E.g., California's WARN layoff notice requirements: Per Chapter 4, Part 4, Sections 1400-1408 of the Labor Code, WARN protects employees, their families, and communities by requiring that employers give a 60-day notice to the affected employees and both state and local representatives prior to a plant closing or mass layoff. Advance notice provides employees and their families time to transition and adjust to the prospective loss of employment, time to seek alternative jobs and, if necessary, time to obtain skills training or retraining to successfully compete in the job market. For more information, visit WARN Frequently Asked Questions. ... https://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WAR...

jdsully 7y ago
Are you sure that still applies if the company is bankrupt? Even if it does how are they supposed to comply when there is no money.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  I don't know, hence my "subject to some limitations" weasel. My principle point was to make known that immediate layoffs without notice or compensation are not something all employees are required to immediately and unconditionally accept. Know and assert your rights. Searching "warn notice layoffs bankruptcy" gives some additional information. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=warn+notice+layoffs+bankruptcy&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=warn+notice+layoffs+bankruptcy&ia=... A bankrupt firm virtually always has assets. The question is how these are distributed amongst creditors. Inclusive of employees.
- oceanghost 7y ago
  I believe it does. In the case of California, there is an exception for "unforeseeable circumstances." Bankruptcy is usually very predictable. The law doesn't mean you can't go bankrupt; you just have to give people warning. The fact is the MO of most companies is to deny anything is wrong right up until the moment everyone gets fired. One needs look no further than the Telltale games saga.