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I think you may be overestimating the technical proficiency of the government. When they talk about browsing history, they're probably quite literally referring

I think you may be overestimating the technical proficiency of the government. When they talk about browsing history, they're probably quite literally referring to looking at your web browser history. Yes, they might also subpoena your ISP for data, but if the ISP isn't collecting it in a way that is 100% correlated with your computer and browser (which is pretty hard with a NAT), then they only have a weak case at best. It probably wouldn't hold up in court.

gnulinux 6y ago
I don't think you understand what's going on. Private browser has no visible difference to server or the party listening to your communication in the middle. The only effect it has is that it doesn't persist your browser history upon closing it.
- brenden2 6y ago
  There's a big difference between what's possible in theory and the reality of current practices. I think many people in this thread are missing that point.
  - iNate2000 6y ago
    Missing the point that this is already going on? Or missing the point that the amendment to the patriot act didn't pass and that this will keep going on?
  - craftinator 6y ago
    The NSA has been grabbing all of your browsing practices for over a decade [0] [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/newly-published-nsa-documents-show-agency-could-grab-all-skype-traffic/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/newly-published-...
  - mindslight 6y ago
    Do you honestly think major ISPs haven't been deploying commercial DPI gear to datamine their customers' traffic, and selling the results to surveillance companies like LexisNexis? Maybe I'm ahead of the adoption curve here, but I see no overall reason they wouldn't be.
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teddyh 6y ago
> When they talk about browsing history, they're probably quite literally referring to looking at your web browser history. What makes you say that?

gnulinux 6y ago

I don't think you understand what's going on. Private browser has no visible difference to server or the party listening to your communication in the middle. The only effect it has is that it doesn't persist your browser history upon closing it.

brenden2 6y ago
There's a big difference between what's possible in theory and the reality of current practices. I think many people in this thread are missing that point.
- iNate2000 6y ago
  Missing the point that this is already going on? Or missing the point that the amendment to the patriot act didn't pass and that this will keep going on?
- craftinator 6y ago
  The NSA has been grabbing all of your browsing practices for over a decade [0] [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/newly-published-nsa-documents-show-agency-could-grab-all-skype-traffic/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/newly-published-...
- mindslight 6y ago
  Do you honestly think major ISPs haven't been deploying commercial DPI gear to datamine their customers' traffic, and selling the results to surveillance companies like LexisNexis? Maybe I'm ahead of the adoption curve here, but I see no overall reason they wouldn't be.

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teddyh 6y ago

> When they talk about browsing history, they're probably quite literally referring to looking at your web browser history. What makes you say that?