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> There seems to be a myth going around that Europe is handling this better than the US and the statistics don't really support that claim. Do you mind showing
by CathedralBorrow 6y ago
> There seems to be a myth going around that Europe is handling this better than the US and the statistics don't really support that claim.
Do you mind showing your work? What do the statistics say about Europe vs. US? I see you mentioned Sweden and Germany but Europe has many more countries than those two.
- dtwest 6y agoIf you add together UK, Spain, and Italy they have more deaths than the US as a whole. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data
- CathedralBorrow 6y ago[Removed due to lack of civility]
- dtwest 6y agoThe lack of civility is pretty disappointing. I linked a bunch of data for you, ignore it if you wish.
- CathedralBorrow 6y agoYou picked a handful of countries that fit your argument and called them Europe. Italy, Spain and UK aren't "Europe" just like California, NY and Florida aren't "The United States of America".
- ric2b 6y agoYou just went and cherry-picked 3 of the most impacted countries in Europe, not very convincing. I can just as easily pick 3 of the least and tell you a completely different story.
- dtwest 6y agoI am simply stating there are more deaths in Europe than in the US. I can prove that with only 3 countries. Please don't interpret my statement as a comment on each individual country. There seems to be miscommunication here.
- ric2b 6y agoEurope also has double the population of the US. And even you ajust for population you then should also take into account how densely populated, etc. It's hard to make fair comparisons.
- xienze 6y ago> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Sort by deaths/1M. You’ll see the US doing better than UK, France, Belgium, Spain, Italy, etc. And in absolute terms, there’s still more cases and deaths in Europe as a whole (I find it funny that when it comes to GDP, we like to think of Europe as “United States of Europe”, but when talking about corona deaths, not so much).
- CathedralBorrow 6y agoI'm not sure who the 'we' is in this context, so I can't address that point. But my point was that picking a handful of countries and calling them Europe isn't very accurate at all.
- xienze 6y agoI mean, put ALL European countries together and there’s way more deaths in total than the US, and I suspect the deaths/1M figure is very similar if not slightly higher than the US. Slice it however you want, the US is not doing that poorly relative to its peers in Europe.
- ric2b 6y agoSure, if you cherry-pick a few countries (your list is basically the most impacted countries in Europe). If you include all European countries you get a different story. And Europe has roughly double the population of the US, it's not surprising that it has more cases in absolute numbers.
- xienze 6y ago> Sure, if you cherry-pick a few countries (your list is basically the most impacted countries in Europe). And yet we’re constantly compared against these countries and told they’re doing things “right” and the US is a disaster. > If you include all European countries you get a different story. You mean a bunch of Eastern European countries that basically aren’t doing any testing? > And Europe has roughly double the population of the US, it's not surprising that it has more cases in absolute numbers. EU 446M versus US 330M...