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How about one of the most similar countries to the US ? Australian deaths per million = 3.92 US deaths per million = 228.5 And the US number is likely to go
by threeseed 7y ago
How about one of the most similar countries to the US ?
Australian deaths per million = 3.92
US deaths per million = 228.5
And the US number is likely to go to 500 in the next two months whilst in some Australia states it looks like COVID-19 is fully eradicated.
- pochamago 7y agoWhy Australia in particular? I don't really feel like they're all that similar to the US.
- ginko 7y agoOther than Canada I can't think of a country more similar to the US than Australia.
- pochamago 7y agoI feel like there are a lot of pandemic relevant factors that are pretty different. 25m people vs 300m. Island nation, less international travelers, very different climate during the opposite season.
- threeseed 7y agoa) Is Canada and Mexico affecting or is somehow responsible for the disastrous way that the US is handling COVID-19 ? Otherwise it’s a moot point. b) Number of international travellers is irrelevant given that the policy in Australia was to quarantine ALL visitors for 14 days. Same policy that the UK has now adopted and you can’t argue that they don’t have a lot of international travellers. Again it is simply bad policy. c) Climate is not that different to many parts of the US right now. It’s not like it’s winter versus summer. Fairly mild temperatures in both countries right now.
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- dgzl 7y agoSimilar in what ways? Aus is an island country whose societal composition and Constitutional rights are nothing like ours. I wouldn't say they're very similar at all.
- ginko 7y agoEnglish speaking, lots of space, common law..
- votepaunchy 7y agoYes, but Australia has kangaroos and the Us doesn’t. What does English have to do with COVID—19?
- ginko 7y agoSo what country do ou think is more similar culturally to the US, then? Or is your point just that America is Special and can't be compared to anyone?
- jwalgenbach 7y agoWhy don't you choose one that has approximately the same population and same population density -- that's why choosing an individual U.S. state might be a better choice because the U.S. is large and has a wide range of population densities. The key point here is transmission of an infectious disease, so to get a proper comparison, you need to start with approximately the same probabilities of people infecting one another. That begins with proximity. Comparing the U.S. and Australia doesn't work because of that.
- 101404 7y agoAh yes, because language is the most important reason to get an infectious disease... Am I here on HN or in r/worldnews?
- ginko 7y ago
- bz33t 7y agoAustralia has its seasons shifted by half a year, so even if Australia had taken similar measures, I'd expect them to have a lot lower transmission rates because respiratory disease peak in winter. https://www.mja.com.au/sites/default/files/issues/210_10/mja250159-fig-0003.png https://www.mja.com.au/sites/default/files/issues/210_10/mja...
- threeseed 7y ago1) No evidence that COVID-19 is affected by weather. 2) Australia and US have quite similar temperatures right now given that it’s often moderate in Autumn/Spring.
- heartbreak 7y agoThere is abundant evidence that COVID-19 is affected by weather. [0] There is no evidence that the spread of COVID-19 is halted by weather. [0] Google Scholar search of “COVID-19 humidity”
- dtwest 7y agoAnd another similar country: UK deaths per million = 488
- wikibob 7y agoThis only proves the point. The UK’s response is among the worst in the developed world. Similar to the US’s response.
- RickJWagner 7y agoPer today's RealClearPolitics chart: US 260 deaths per million UK 499 France 404 Netherlands 322 Germany (Kudos!) 94.8 The US is not doing badly at all.
- xienze 7y ago> The US is not doing badly at all. Sadly people can’t look past the big absolute number of deaths and attach proper context to it. Like deaths per million, or ignoring that ~half of cases and deaths are restricted to a single metropolitan area.
- wonderwonder 7y agoSouth Korea: 5.07 deaths per million Population of ~51 million First case on the same day as us. Democratic government. This is who we should be comparing ourselves too, not just choosing some random countries that are doing worse than us.
- threeseed 7y agoMost of those countries are seeing their death rate decline. US is plateauing. https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america Which means the US is on track to at minimum 500+ within the next few months making it the worst country in the world.
- MisterBastahrd 7y agoYes, yes it is. Because a large number of those cases are NYC, which is already on the downside of its curve by a considerable degree, while the US as a whole is still trending upward, meaning that the country outside of NYC is doing pretty poorly.