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> tab collectors who have...significantly more Guilty as charged. I have a hard time saying goodbye to some of those tabs sometimes. Tab minimalists react in

> tab collectors who have...significantly more Guilty as charged. I have a hard time saying goodbye to some of those tabs sometimes. Tab minimalists react in horror. Meh -- they're missing out. > Now, with a simple right click, you can group your tabs together and label them with a custom name and color. I'm afraid that this might just free enough pixels to allow me to collect yet more tabs. ;)

nieve 6y ago
Don't feel too bad about your tab hoarding, I'm at 3 windows with 4630 tabs and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a stress test than a user. Chrome can't function with 1/20th of mine and Firefox runs smooth and fast. Restarting with loading all the session data takes seven or eight seconds total. It can't just be the different multi-process models so I'm pretty sure that the Chrome team can do better.
- slater 6y ago
  4k tabs?!? D:
  - Zancarius 6y ago
    Some of us need help. We're crazy. I've hit close to 10k before when I felt like being incredibly mean to my browser by never closing anything I opened for about 3-4 months.
    - tgbugs 6y ago
      Man, I know I have a problem, and I thought it was bad at about 700 tabs across 25 windows (virtual desktops are enablers for the window count). But seeing this thread I clearly need to up my game/download more memory.
      - nieve 6y ago
        You definitely have a windows problem! Do you end up using large numbers of desktops as topic workspaces for them?
        tgbugs 6y ago
        In principle yes. The problem is that they loose their topicness and quickly become "oh this was the closest virtual desktops to where you were in the grid with an empty space." This is largely because I made the mistake of originally implementing the transition system as a grid (this was 5 years ago or so). Since then I realized that I basically want a button that will let me create a new topic space, and then remove that space automatically when I close the last window in it. Figuring out how gc stale topics (I can recreate them from memory) and/or discover which topics already have spaces is the hard part (I have had the ability to display topics on desktops via conky for years and that doesn't seem to have helped). I have also thought about trying to decouple how spaces are associated per monitor, but couldn't figure out a way to interact with such a system that wouldn't leave my brain lost somewhere in even higher dimensional virtual spaces than it already is!
        Zancarius 6y ago
        Reading your comments put into words a behavior pattern I didn't fully recognize I'd adopted, though certainly not to the extreme as you (or with the direct intent). I noticed that my tab + window use started to balloon when it occurred to me that rather than dividing virtual desktops by task (one for dev, one for email/general browsing, etc) I could start moving browser windows from each instance to different locations based upon whatever I was doing (or for that matter, application-specific tasks). It's an exceedingly simplified (and admittedly very dumbed down) version of what it sounds like I understand you're doing, but the strange thing is that I found expanding your mental state across virtual desktops with the granularity of a browser instance/window/set of windows is an oddly freeing phenomenon. It's a sense of euphoria I don't think the average Windows user will fully appreciate even with the integration of virtual desktops in Windows 10 since most are typically not familiar with it!
        6y ago
  - parenthesis 6y ago
    I'm not feeling so crazy now about my current 490 tabs.
- Zancarius 6y ago
  I think I found my kindred spirit! I have one Firefox instance presently at 3 windows and 3379 tabs and another with 10 windows and somewhere north of 2300 tabs. I wouldn't dare do this under Chrome/Chromium. On my system at least, I've noticed that Firefox does get less responsive around 8000+ tabs. Mostly it's just the start up that complains. Sometimes I'll get annoyed and mass-bookmark/close tabs (filed under date of closure). Do you ever do that or do you usually filter through things on an as needed basis?
  - nieve 6y ago
    For finding things I just use search in Power Tabs. Filtering down usually leaves me with a list I can scan through quickly. When it comes time to clean up I cheat by using that as well - filter my tab list, then select individual or groups of tabs to close. Generally I'll start by closing all tabs from news sites like the NY Times and WaPo under the assumption that they're probably stale, then clear out a bunch of HN tabs, and most often then switch to digging through the github ones to see what's actually relevant anymore. StackExchange and Reddit tend to get slashed pretty hard as well. Basically filter, viciously select, then close and I can blow away a thousand tabs in a couple of minutes. The highest I've ever gotten was around 6000 on old Firefox for Linux and I did see some slowdowns then, but that was on a seven year old laptop.
  - errnoh 6y ago
    Oh, there are kindred spirits here. I've recommended this on other tab-related discussions but Tab Stats is one of the few Firefox addons that have been worth using as a tab hoarder. Allows me to see which pages are open in multiple tabs and then deduplicate them if needed, or just looking at (or closing) open tabs based on domain. (I'm not affiliated with the creator and it's not without its own annoyances, but still easily recommendable to anyone with thousands of tabs open)
    - Zancarius 6y ago
      Awesome. I don't find it too tedious to go through and nuke things I know aren't useful long term (they're usually shunted to a separate throw away window for this reason!), but there's no easy solution for tab deduplication. What you've linked looks like it fits the bill! Thank you!
- ksec 6y ago
  Thanks. Now I am not feeling as bad :P My Safari had 1K+ Tabs and I finally spend some time last week closing those down to 150Tabs. Normally Safari dont work as well as Firefox with that many Tabs, the trick is to restart Safari from time to time ( So Tabs are not Active ). AND do NOT press the Tab Overview Button. Which somehow reloads all the tabs, make your Mac insanely slow and would kill your SSD. As you wont have enough memory it literally page hundreds of GB if not TB to your SSD. Reported this to Apple a few times and never heard anything back. I really wish there is an option where Tab Overview is just a list of tabs and doesn't load them up. I think most of us are using Tabs as a sort of live reading list or Bookmarks. And as anyone may guess, never really got to finish it. Ok now I wrote that I should try to clean those 150 tabs down to at least a few dozen.
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nieve 6y ago

Don't feel too bad about your tab hoarding, I'm at 3 windows with 4630 tabs and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a stress test than a user. Chrome can't function with 1/20th of mine and Firefox runs smooth and fast. Restarting with loading all the session data takes seven or eight seconds total. It can't just be the different multi-process models so I'm pretty sure that the Chrome team can do better.

slater 6y ago
4k tabs?!? D:
- Zancarius 6y ago
  Some of us need help. We're crazy. I've hit close to 10k before when I felt like being incredibly mean to my browser by never closing anything I opened for about 3-4 months.
  - tgbugs 6y ago
    Man, I know I have a problem, and I thought it was bad at about 700 tabs across 25 windows (virtual desktops are enablers for the window count). But seeing this thread I clearly need to up my game/download more memory.
    - nieve 6y ago
      You definitely have a windows problem! Do you end up using large numbers of desktops as topic workspaces for them?
      - tgbugs 6y ago
        In principle yes. The problem is that they loose their topicness and quickly become "oh this was the closest virtual desktops to where you were in the grid with an empty space." This is largely because I made the mistake of originally implementing the transition system as a grid (this was 5 years ago or so). Since then I realized that I basically want a button that will let me create a new topic space, and then remove that space automatically when I close the last window in it. Figuring out how gc stale topics (I can recreate them from memory) and/or discover which topics already have spaces is the hard part (I have had the ability to display topics on desktops via conky for years and that doesn't seem to have helped). I have also thought about trying to decouple how spaces are associated per monitor, but couldn't figure out a way to interact with such a system that wouldn't leave my brain lost somewhere in even higher dimensional virtual spaces than it already is!
        Zancarius 6y ago
        Reading your comments put into words a behavior pattern I didn't fully recognize I'd adopted, though certainly not to the extreme as you (or with the direct intent). I noticed that my tab + window use started to balloon when it occurred to me that rather than dividing virtual desktops by task (one for dev, one for email/general browsing, etc) I could start moving browser windows from each instance to different locations based upon whatever I was doing (or for that matter, application-specific tasks). It's an exceedingly simplified (and admittedly very dumbed down) version of what it sounds like I understand you're doing, but the strange thing is that I found expanding your mental state across virtual desktops with the granularity of a browser instance/window/set of windows is an oddly freeing phenomenon. It's a sense of euphoria I don't think the average Windows user will fully appreciate even with the integration of virtual desktops in Windows 10 since most are typically not familiar with it!
        6y ago
- parenthesis 6y ago
  I'm not feeling so crazy now about my current 490 tabs.
Zancarius 6y ago
I think I found my kindred spirit! I have one Firefox instance presently at 3 windows and 3379 tabs and another with 10 windows and somewhere north of 2300 tabs. I wouldn't dare do this under Chrome/Chromium. On my system at least, I've noticed that Firefox does get less responsive around 8000+ tabs. Mostly it's just the start up that complains. Sometimes I'll get annoyed and mass-bookmark/close tabs (filed under date of closure). Do you ever do that or do you usually filter through things on an as needed basis?
- nieve 6y ago
  For finding things I just use search in Power Tabs. Filtering down usually leaves me with a list I can scan through quickly. When it comes time to clean up I cheat by using that as well - filter my tab list, then select individual or groups of tabs to close. Generally I'll start by closing all tabs from news sites like the NY Times and WaPo under the assumption that they're probably stale, then clear out a bunch of HN tabs, and most often then switch to digging through the github ones to see what's actually relevant anymore. StackExchange and Reddit tend to get slashed pretty hard as well. Basically filter, viciously select, then close and I can blow away a thousand tabs in a couple of minutes. The highest I've ever gotten was around 6000 on old Firefox for Linux and I did see some slowdowns then, but that was on a seven year old laptop.
- errnoh 6y ago
  Oh, there are kindred spirits here. I've recommended this on other tab-related discussions but Tab Stats is one of the few Firefox addons that have been worth using as a tab hoarder. Allows me to see which pages are open in multiple tabs and then deduplicate them if needed, or just looking at (or closing) open tabs based on domain. (I'm not affiliated with the creator and it's not without its own annoyances, but still easily recommendable to anyone with thousands of tabs open)
  - Zancarius 6y ago
    Awesome. I don't find it too tedious to go through and nuke things I know aren't useful long term (they're usually shunted to a separate throw away window for this reason!), but there's no easy solution for tab deduplication. What you've linked looks like it fits the bill! Thank you!
ksec 6y ago
Thanks. Now I am not feeling as bad :P My Safari had 1K+ Tabs and I finally spend some time last week closing those down to 150Tabs. Normally Safari dont work as well as Firefox with that many Tabs, the trick is to restart Safari from time to time ( So Tabs are not Active ). AND do NOT press the Tab Overview Button. Which somehow reloads all the tabs, make your Mac insanely slow and would kill your SSD. As you wont have enough memory it literally page hundreds of GB if not TB to your SSD. Reported this to Apple a few times and never heard anything back. I really wish there is an option where Tab Overview is just a list of tabs and doesn't load them up. I think most of us are using Tabs as a sort of live reading list or Bookmarks. And as anyone may guess, never really got to finish it. Ok now I wrote that I should try to clean those 150 tabs down to at least a few dozen.

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